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Originally Posted by kaiserwilhelm
I guess I am really wanting a response from Leonard here. I will take whatever I get.
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I am Leonard...but others have already done a great job of answering, so I'll just put in a few extra things...
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I produce straight out of INDD CS4. I use PDF X4A.
I contend (since I am the prepress manager and I have seen it with my own eyes) that type can still reflow from one machine to another.
A consultant to our company is telling us that type cannot reflow (if all fonts are embedded). I have embedded fonts for the past 4 years and I have seen it on screen a few times (PC vs Mac) and via a laser printer numerous times.
(Konica Minolta C551).
What is your experience, and what do the folks at Adobe and or the Ghent group have to say?
Kaiser
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The PDF and PDF/X standards are very clear that if the fonts are embedded in a document, the "conforming reader" (be that something like Acrobat/Reader or your RIP) is REQUIRED to use that font information when rendering the PDF. So from a purists standpoint - if the fonts are embedded, then you will NOT see the text change from the version you produced.
Unfortunately, we don't live in a pure world
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First, as noted, software has bugs. We've had discussions in this forum about how things vary between versions of Acrobat/Reader when we've fixed bugs (or, oh no, introduced them). It happens, it's unfortunate, and we deal with them as quickly as we can - and hpefully provide you (the user) with workarounds. Of course, don't forget the RIP too - they have bugs as well but don't always update as quickly AND many users don't even bother to upgrade/update their RIPs.
Second, is simply following the rules! Adobe's PDF solutions (be it Acrobat/Reader, our Postscript and PDF RIPs, etc.) all follow the rules set forth by the various standards - and especially in this case, concerning the fonts. Is that true for your RIP? I don't know - I don't know if it's from Adobe or another company?
Finally, many workflows involve other tools in the process from production to print. They are used for "correction" as well as layout and imposition. Do the tools involved follow the rules? Adobe's do, many of the others do - but some do not! I know of at least two major, well known, vendors of prepress/production tools who products will cause HUGE amounts of damage to PDF fonts
. So this too is an area where one needs to ensure use of proper, standards-supporting, solutions.
Hope that all helps...
Leonard
