Photoshop CS4 and Type

[Joe]

Originally Posted by claude72

I'm not sure, but there are 2 versions of Inp02, or a basic version with some plug-ins or add-on... the basic version alone is in the same price range than Quite Imposing, but the plug-ins highly raise the price and the possibilities...

... so, did you see the basic version or the "full" version ???

I believe it is the full version with:

Wizard: Basic 6-step wizard interface. Sold through OEM only

Layout Editor: Customization and fine-tuning options through inpO2 Light Table

Assembly Planner: Different approaches to build imposition assemblies in inpO2.

Optimization: Automated ganging for flat work

Automation: Hot folders-based imposition for automated workflow

JDF Export: JDF Export for layout and finishing

[claude72]

Originally Posted by Joe

I'm not sure how long you have been doing this so you may remember when design professionals left actual page assembly to professionals (I actually used to do that job at a service bureau) to do this kind of thing correctly.

Yes, I remember... in french we call them "exé", which is the abbreviation (and a kind of nickname) for "exécutant"... (my dictionnary gives "executer", "producer" or "performer" as an english translation): they are the technicians who "execute" the job and "produce" the files according to designer's specifications and models... and that's also a part of my job!

(I'm in the press-jobs since about 27-28 years first in servicing (mechanic and electricity), then as press-man + manual-stripping and plate copy, and in pre-press + exé since 17 years)

None even know what "camera ready" even means but they heard it at some point and they like the sound of it.

I feel a big irony in your words... and I see the sad reality behind the irony, the same reality as mine

In France, they say either "PDF prêt à flasher" = "PDF ready to image"
(to image on an imagesetter, of course)...

... or "PDF HD"... HD stands for "High Definition"... and I "like" () this "HD" that in fact means nothing explicit but also means everything you want: means "using the good-resolution-that-match-with-the-job-to-do", and for many people means "I absolutely don't know what it is, but you are the printer and you should know what to do"!!! ... and it's often a good indication of competence: when a customer says that he will give me a "PDF HD", I'm sure that it will be terrific and I prepare for the worst

I believe it is the full version with:

OK! I'm not sure, but I believe that the "light table" feature (letting you strip the pages as one stripped the films on a mounting foil on a light table) is part of the full version... and the price is also full!!! and far away from my possibilities (or I have to win at loto )
But the basic version which cost less than 1000 euros has a already a good efficiency... probably less efficient than Quite ImposingPlus, but surely easier to use... (I still work with films... so I can still strip films manually on a mounting foil if the job is beyond the possibilities of a cheap imposition software)

[hansman]

PDF s are for for $%&*
Give me the native files any day of the week.
We waste more non-chargeable time telling our clients to re-save it this way or don't forget to do this blah blah......
Don't get me wrong in the hands of a professional a good pdf is the way to go.
I remember hearing back when they came out they were going to be the end of the need for good prepress people!!!!!

[Lukas Engqvist]

I got this file today. It has some real world example of a Photosho file. some text is correctly exported as vector another part contains faux bold and is therefore rasterised at 300ppi.
Screen dumps are from Apogee viewing at 1 dpi on output plates = pixel on screen. (don't know if we get distortion as i link this to the forum though)
Picture 99.jpg vector text (apparently not 100% black )
Picture 98.jpg faux in one word causes the whole text area to be rasterised.

[claude72]

Originally Posted by Lukas Engqvist

Screen dumps are from Apogee viewing at 1 dpi on output plates = pixel on screen.

Yeah... got exactly the same result than me with the 300 ppi rasterized texts of my "AB5" tests in the Viper!!!


If you have the native PSD file (and some free times), it should be interesting to over-sample your file at 1200 ppi: the "vector" text should then be re-rasterized at the new resolution using the real vector datas of the text-layer (just check the picture to be sure! ), then export as PDF, and make a new screen dump from your Apogee to see if the higher résolution does or doesn't change the look of the rasterized faux-bold text ???