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    We are having issues with several clients being able to view overprints on PDFs. They all want to see PDFs as proofs but cant understand that they need to view these PDFs with overprint preview. We have tried several times to explain to some clients about the various places to turn on overprint simulation but some clients do not seem to want to put in the effort.
    My question is...Is there a particular PDF format that will view and print overprint simulation on any clients computer regardless of what platform they are on or what version of Acrobat they are using yet still be small enough to email?

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    PDF/X-1a or PDF/X-4. Just down sample the resolution. "Newer" versions of Acrobat Reader should automatically turn on overprint preview.
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    Any PDFx will automatically trigger overprint preview and output intent profile (in ACROBAT or ADOBE READER). Now since there are many other PDF readers there may be an issue.

    I use rgb PDF's with about 100ppi resolution flattened and with "simulate overprint" in the PDF creation to send as proofs. It will give a trustworthy simulation, not perfect, but no dissapearing white text that doesn't dissapear in the proof first (this works in any PDF viewer but may give stitching defects at some zoom percentages)
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    Note that you can include ICC profile if you like for even better control, but it will add to file size... I do all as sRGB.

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    Thanks...I will give it a go.

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    I used to use two methods, depending on various factors:

    1) Convert the PDF to a "monitor width" resolution JPEG or PNG of say 800px or 1200px (dependent on content, file size, amount of files etc).

    2) Create a PDF/X-4 file with reduced image resolution and JPEG compression (unflattened for smaller file size and forcing overprint view via pdf/x), that would contain RGB and CMYK objects (it did not matter as everything was viewed/printed through the output intent) which used the Callas PDF toolbox "Callas_Small_Fogra39" ICC profile as the output intent. This profile was not used to make press conversions as it was "stripped down", however it was good enough to embed as the output intent for preview purposes in a draft PDF without bloating the file size too much. I would stress that the PDF would need to be opened in the free Adobe Acrobat Reader for accurate viewing.


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    Hi,

    as Matt mentioned: "Newer" versions of Acrobat Reader should automatically turn on overprint preview

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    Acrobat 9 and newer.

    For that reason I have quite a number of customer (Europe) that are rendering the PDF pages (simulating overprinting) to something like 144ppi images as multipage PDF since these PDFs can even be viewed with Acrobat 4 and no overprinting is needed.

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    When I converted to PDF/X-1a, I could see the overprint on acrobat reader.
    Now, when you have transparence effect on overprint, I could still see the overprint and as directed profile color space.
    However when PDF/X-1a file will not able to print the PDF file as you see on the screen.
    PDF/X-4:2008 is way to go. It solves the problem to print and view the overprint + Transparency.
    Last edited by drummerpaco; 05-18-2011 at 03:42 PM.

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    Yes PDFx4 is a higher level abstraction a PDFx1a needs to have "simulate overprint" on in the printer settings, which is not available in Readers.

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    Investing in online soft proofing option might be another solution (costly but effective).
    Pixel streaming or other technology used by different vendors accurately displays PDF without worrying about overprint preview on or off in client's acrobat.

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    You can change the preferences in Acrobat to show overprint for all PDF's not just PDF/x


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