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    Hi Dan, no I don't have access to Adobe StreamLine anymore, so it would just be an academic exercise rather than a practical solution.

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    Greetings Stephen, Sorry for my delayed response. I am in a training class all day and I would swear that the hi speed wi fi in my hotel is bouncing to my room via a modem. A few questions:

    1. Is the file you sent me named single-path-knife-inprogress.pdf your final file?
    2. Is the distance you are splitting to make the final dieline always the same, or do you need to measure each expanded stroke set of elements to determine the offset path number.
    3. I have made many rotary flexo dielines, however they rarely required any additional graphic elements except the outer dieline, with an occasional perf. Are there more lines necessary on a successful die for your application than an outer perimeter, eg knife cuts for flaps, etc?

    I can automate some of this but I am not sure you would gain much. With the answers to my questions, I will "play" at bit more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billw@mlode.com View Post
    Greetings Stephen, Sorry for my delayed response. I am in a training class all day and I would swear that the hi speed wi fi in my hotel is bouncing to my room via a modem. A few questions:

    1. Is the file you sent me named single-path-knife-inprogress.pdf your final file?
    Yes, I only built the bare minimum to show what the intended outcome would be. Of course, there is a whole let left to do, which is why I was looking for an automated method rather than manual.


    2. Is the distance you are splitting to make the final dieline always the same, or do you need to measure each expanded stroke set of elements to determine the offset path number.
    I would hope that all the outlined paths are the same thickness in each knife/die file.

    From one file to the next? I am not sure.


    3. I have made many rotary flexo dielines, however they rarely required any additional graphic elements except the outer dieline, with an occasional perf. Are there more lines necessary on a successful die for your application than an outer perimeter, eg knife cuts for flaps, etc?
    I think that the file that I posted was a worse case scenario, there is a whole lot of extra junk in there which is probably not necessary for cut-n-crease operations. If an automated method can "centreline" everything, then I could just delete off the junk (before or after).

    I can automate some of this but I am not sure you would gain much. With the answers to my questions, I will "play" at bit more.

    -Bill-

    It is a tough challenge, so I am more than happy with whatever you come up with Bill! I really appreciate your time looking into this.


    Sincerely,

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    Greetings Stephan - Don't mean to be a broken record, but in order to test my actions, I need to know what kind of file you receive and what your final file needs to look like.

    You indicate that "I only built the bare minimum to show what the intended outcome would be. Of course, there is a whole let left to do". Is it possible for you to send me your final file to compare to the original file named outlined-knife.pdf?

    Thanks

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    Thanks Bill, I have attached a new zip file PDF.

    It has a spot colour for cut and and separate one for the crease. For sake of example, this is all that would be required.

    In this case it is not too much manual work to fix the outlined paths into a single stroke, however I would like to automate this as much as possible as some jobs would be more complex and time consuming. I will of course push for the correct data to be supplied, however sometimes I have to work with what I am given.


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    Greetings Stephan,

    As I work through this I noticed in the last file you sent me some unconnected areas in the dielilne. I have attached a PDF file that highlights two of these areas. Can the die maker use the file with these unconnected areas or do you need to fix these?
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    Greetings Stephan,

    Typed a bit too fast - the exploded view in the upper right shows what I, being a novice with these types of dieline, would guess to be a misalignment. Is the intersection of the outer dieline and what I am guessing is a crease line off?

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    Hi Bill, for this exercise, it is not too big a deal about the alignment, think of this more as a proof of concept if that helps. It is early days for me using a CAD cut-n-crease, at this early point I will hazard a guess that it does not matter if paths are connected or joined. Please don't spend too much time on this unless you like the challenge!


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    Greetings Stephan,

    Love the challenge. I have attached a zip file containing a maker document and an action. Open the maker document, load the action, paste the dieline art from the customer in the clipboard and start the action.

    I have tested and refined this a few times and it has worked correctly each test. When you get to the offset path action component I had a negative number set in my original action, however when I saved the action and reloaded it the number became positive and that is why I had to put that extra stop reminder. If you have not used actions you may need some additional instructions - let me know.

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    Thanks Bill!

    I am still using CS5, I receive an error message when opening this MAKER.AI file. Is it possible for you to save as CS5 or earlier and or with PDF compatibility to make this more accessible?

    I am not sure if there are any action issues with running an action created in a later version or not?


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