I have attached an action and files for Illustrator 5 as unfortunately actions have had troubles working between different versions of Illustrator. Actually I am glad you did not have Ill 6, as this gave me a chance to streamline the action a bit.
Two things to remember:
1. Actions can only act on elements that are selected. Therefore some interaction with the action steps is needed. An action guides one through a series of steps that can be done without the action. If you are all ready proficient in these steps an action may not necessary speed up the process but will allow others not so proficient to complete the process.
2. After the 5th stop message in the action I built, there is a dialog box that may say "....lock is not available." If one does not select a element in the step before, which one may not need to do. If that dialog comes up, just select the continue button in the dialog.
Have fun watching the action.
Stephen - had a chance to use the action? Any feedback?
Thank you Bill, I am sorry for not getting back to you, our Epson 9900 has had it's head replaced due to a nasty 1A37 error (close to $2K in parts and labour) and I am having a nightmare with my delta e values. I will get back to you as soon as I can. Thanks again!
Bill, again, my apologies for the delay in my reply. I am now past the colour issues that I was previously having with our 9900, I was chasing my tail with dE vs. dH values contradicting each other, constantly failing proof certification.
The CS5 action works great, thank you for your time and for helping to come up with a solution to help streamline this process. Cheers Bill!
Anytime - Glad the action can help streamline your process.
I know this is an old thread but could somebody explain to me why as in the original post these files even come into being?
Why would you want to change a line into a thin rectangle, that is filled?
I talk to a lot of diemakers and whenever I mention this type of vector file to them, I always get the same reply, "If you find out why they are created this way please let us know", as it is an absolute pain having to redraw something from the start again when it was originally a proper line in the first place!
Sorry if this is a bit of a rant as my first post, but I have just received another file like this, third hand from my client who won't have access to whoever created it in the first place!
Most diemakers don't have programs such as Illustrator or the time, to play around with these files and try and get them back to their original state and customers always baulk at being charged for what in their eyes is a perfectly good file.
I have climbed down off my soap box and am now taking deep breaths into a paper bag!
Originally Posted by Dahzee
Hi Dahzee, I am not 100% certain, however in some cases I believe that this may happen when a packaging file passes through an Esko workflow that uses these offending settings. EDIT: It could even happen with an Adobe transparency flatttener setting.
However it may happen, it is a major PITA!
Since my OP, we have become a reseller of Arden Impact software. This is a serious database driven CAD/CAM package, with extensive drawing, parametric editing FEFCO & ECMA based standards (or even custom parametric standards), step and repeat, diemaking, plotter drivers and 3D folding/visualisation/rendering etc.
I will have to double check, however I am certain that this software does offer the ability to auto trace a raster version of a die and to create a single line vector version.
EDIT: Yes, the Art Trace feature works like magic to auto trace a centreline from a raster version knifeshape/dieshape. It is so much faster to rasterize the double path outlined knifeshape, then perform an Art Trace in Arden Impact, then perform any minor corrections as needed.
Last edited by Stephen Marsh; 11-05-2013 at 11:06 PM.
Thanks for the quick reply.
I think after spending the time redrawing this type of file this morning, I am going to refuse to accept them in future.
Being provided with a file that has been created through ignorance, gives me enough excuse not to waste my time.
I think I will create a spec. sheet with file type information on so I can provide my customers with information in advance to try and head these files off at the pass.
Usually knowing you will have to pay extra can sometimes concentrate the mind!
This might be a bit of wishful thinking on my part but at least my customers can't say I didn't warn them when they want something in a hurry!
It's not created out of ignorance. Nobody, as far as I know, does this intentionally. If you create a line in Microsoft Word, save the document out as a PDF, and then review that line in the PDF you will have a rectangle. I believe many of the CAD programs do this, as well. In CAD software packages a line has no thickness. To have any thickness the line must be a rectangle. From a purely geometric view it makes sense.
I think these files are the result of unintended uses.
It would be interesting to have the file built, and exported, with no thickness ascribed to the dielines to see how the dielines would come through the process.
I think I probably used the wrong wording, the file is more than likely created as a consequence of another one of the processes of Artwork creation.
I imagine the file is created after the artwork has been finalised, when it probably should be created as a separate file before.
I understand what you are saying about the rectangles, at least you know this file was probably created by a packaging designer before the artwork, as opposed to the people that draw cutter guides in Illustrator using lots of rectangles for each panel (double lines everywhere!).
If I learn any more about these files I will report back.
Thanks for everybody's input.