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    im having so many problems with the lithostar ultra plates for the Galileo V5 CTP, there is always something new, and they are not reliable at all, we've been searching for the real problem and the conclusion was the plates, they came to the shop already blinded, so its pretty frustrating and we are wasting at least 100 plates per month, so i would like to know if there is a subsitute for this plates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Arriaza View Post
    im having so many problems with the lithostar ultra plates for the Galileo V5 CTP, there is always something new, and they are not reliable at all, we've been searching for the real problem and the conclusion was the plates, they came to the shop already blinded, so its pretty frustrating and we are wasting at least 100 plates per month, so i would like to know if there is a subsitute for this plates?
    If you have a 30mW laser system there are options from all of the "big 3" plate manufacturers, as well as some other minor players. If your system is a 5mW, you'd have to upgrade the laser system or trade in the machine - the silver-based LAP-V is really the only plate still available for those systems.

    The newer Galileo's have 30mW support (like the VE, etc.), but I'm not sure about the V5 you mention.

    Let me know if you want details on the Kodak plates or solutions and I can help.

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    He meant Galileo VS, and switching to another technology (photopolymer plates) needs another type of plate processor.
    Alex has problem with vendor, not plates: wrong transport-storage conditions, expiry date could cause the blinding.

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    Actually Vlad Canada is right in everything, i believe the problem comes from the distributor, there was this one time in which they did had the size of plate that we needed, so their solution was to open a box of new plates with bigger size and then cut it to the size we needed they did that for at least five deliveries, thats why i want to change not only the vendor but also the plates, if anyone can recommend plates that are suitable for the CTP i have and the processor please let me know

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    Plates probably were cut not in safe yellow light as well...
    Unfortunately you have no choice but AGFA.
    Need more freedom - switch the technology to photopolymer, and you will have AGFA and Fuji Brilla options (and some "made in China" )... and more plate-processor brands to buy.
    The question is - money for that step to your freedom.

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    Alex:

    Even though it means a different processor, I think that you should really consider the photopolymer option.There is a very good reason why there is only one manufacturer of silver emulsion plates.

    Regards:
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    Murray:

    Are you upgrading his laser with that advice? (smile)
    I suspect Alex's VS is an original 5mW laser.

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    If Steve is right, they will need the second step to freedom: Galileo carriage upgrade to 60mW laser.
    I've never had such amount of money in my possession
    Last edited by VladCanada; 03-23-2010 at 12:58 PM.

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    HI steve:

    I think that the upgrade goes without saying. But maybe I am wrong to assume that everyone is aware of the higher lazer requirements after all this time.

    Did you notice that I did not name any plate manufacturer?

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    "Without saying" works only for customers with a Service Contract.
    Laser upgrade has never been mandatory procedure like an internal SW upgrade, for instance.
    AGFA, Fuji, Kodak... does not matter who.
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