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    Hello,
    Please excuse my poor English.

    I have an agfa avantra30, now it's showing me " motor running slow" on the screen, and the motor isn't running at all.

    I checked the circuit board, found and repaired some blown fuses.
    The error's still there,

    What sould I do?

    Any electrical diagram is welcome

    thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by abodah View Post
    Hello,
    Please excuse my poor English.
    I have an agfa avantra30, now it's showing me " motor running slow" on the screen, and the motor isn't running at all.

    I checked the circuit board, found and repaired some blown fuses.
    The error's still there,

    What sould I do?

    Any electrical diagram is welcome

    thx
    The error is from the OLP. Doesn't matter if the error is different from the actual physical performance of the module. This is the error generated if the Motor is running slow or if it isn't working at all.
    What is the history behind the blown fuses?Is it an Agfaline30 processor? If you need help, You will have to describe the problem clearly from the start. Your English is perfect, but your description of the problem is poor.
    Last edited by Armya Inc; 08-13-2012 at 10:00 PM.

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    Hello Armya,
    To be honest, I knew nothing about this machine, I even didn't know what it is for.
    It belongs to a friend of mine.

    Anyway, now I learned that the fuses control the heater and the fan. He told me that they're working now, and they weren't before I fix the fuses.

    Update: I connect a line between the microprocessor and the OP-amp, and now the motor is running with no issues.
    The only minor problem now that the motor decreases its speed instead of full stopping.
    I guess I have to put a resistor instead of direct connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abodah View Post
    Hello Armya,
    To be honest, I knew nothing about this machine, I even didn't know what it is for.
    It belongs to a friend of mine.

    Anyway, now I learned that the fuses control the heater and the fan. He told me that they're working now, and they weren't before I fix the fuses.

    Update: I connect a line between the microprocessor and the OP-amp, and now the motor is running with no issues.
    The only minor problem now that the motor decreases its speed instead of full stopping.
    I guess I have to put a resistor instead of direct connection.
    What kind of processor is that ? If you do not know this, then you can send me a picture of the machine.

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    Farshad, you could guess that's AgfaLine machine by the error message " motor running slow"
    Main motor Encoder Optocoupler issue. (IMHO)
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    Yeap! Then all the modification have been done on Pre-Box PCB, I assume. Optocoupler? Perhaps, but with all replacement of burnt fuses, and running new wires, I can't be sure what the original problem was.
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    And I look forward to hear next bad news: "our bottom relay board at that sandwich burnt with a smoke and smell allaround"

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladCanada View Post
    And I look forward to hear next bad news: "our bottom relay board at that sandwich burnt with a smoke and smell allaround"
    Yes! I think he may end up replacing the Prebox(Sandwich board)

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    It's time to replace Main motor relay ASAP
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    I have two relay boards (as a source for spare relays) with burnt wholes at the place for Main motor relay.
    Incorrect calculation to get a proper relay type (contacts load of the current) caused fast spark-worn effect, overheating, mechanical clinch and final fire.
    The first symthom was unstable motor speed and error messages.
    Glunz&Jensen changed the type of that relay for later board version after many complaints worldwide.
    Unfortunately diagnose-by-sight impossible without Prebox dismantling
    Last edited by VladCanada; 08-15-2012 at 12:05 PM.


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