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    hi can any body help me ,to tell me about the whole proceeder of press calibration & how can i produce press profile to print as per my proofs, Thanks in advance.

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    If you search the threads this should a similar question has been discussed.

    Normally though you would make your press print to a standard, G7 or fogra's interpretations of ISO 12647
    Then you would make your proof match the same standards profile. And verify your print.

    these are some of them:
    Color Management, What is it really??
    Press calibration
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahir View Post
    hi can any body help me ,to tell me about the whole proceeder of press calibration & how can i produce press profile to print as per my proofs, Thanks in advance.
    How much time you got??

    :-)

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    actually i want the to know the method step by step ,including printing patches , measuring them to see the tvi etc & all parameter , calibrate the curve put the reading into soft where to create a profile for the press.I need to know the method step by step & also want the soft where names which can be used for profile making & how can i measure the patches x rite name which one or another one please help me to create a good profile for my press . Thanks again to listen me . by

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    There are several methods to do this. But this as many other skills is what some people specialise at, I have not seen a manual that goes through the steps. I am part of a network of printers, and wrote an internal manual to deal with this, but it was in Swedish. Compiling the knowledge and experience we have into a step by step guilde is a tedious and time consuming task. (If I had written such a book, I'd probably have to charge for it too). I would advise to get a consultant to walk you through it the first time. Maintaininig a press/prepress system in tune is still a job that needs to be done, but having a consultant taking you step by step in your own workshop is still a good place to start. Where is it you are working? Have you thought about if there is a regional standard? Are there other printers that you can collaborate with to get a better understanding? Perhapps going to visit a site where you know they have made the journey?

    I am sorry to have to bounce back with so many questions. But I think some of us almost read into it the same kind of open ended questions as "could tell me everything about french?" There is plenty information but hard to find the right information in an easy to read format.
    To answer specific issues or clarify what you don't understand is easier.

    The principles are:
    Getting down all your variables, so that you have a stable environment and documenting them.
    Then you need to decide what standard you want to target.
    You may have to change your variables so that the target is reachable. (the colours of your primaries and secondaries, solid density etc and decide on other variables like screening )

    Once all is stable make an adjustment so that you can match the tone curve.

    Then the next (optional) stage would be to maka a profile specific to that status, (see threads on fingerprinting).

    Your proofer would then undergo a similar process.

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    The steps vary depending on the type of RIP or Workflow you are using. They also vary because you have to properly adjust exposure and calibrate each device that is used before getting to the press. In other words you first have to calibrate your platesetter. Once this is done then you can calibrate your press. Once that is done then you can output a calibration test to the platesetter and make sure it is correct. After the platesetter has been calibrated you can start calibrating the press using press targets output from your RIP or workflow.

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    £60 and Hour and I can help LOL

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    Based on your first question I recommend you to hire a consultant. Many things might go wrong and when it does you need to be able to analyse it.

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    My Rates are negotiable.

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    To calibrate our press we bought GMG-software; PrintControl and RapidCheck.
    Our set-up contained following steps...
    1. Linear Compensation
    At first, it's very important to expose the nominal value.
    Any platesetter has a handicap. For example, a digital 50% will be exposed as 48%.
    So you have to execute a compensation in RIP, by which the 50% actually will be exposed as 50%.
    Make a fingerprint with different densities on the inkzones.

    2. Dot Gain Compensation (DGC)
    Dependent of the standard you want to reach, find the optimal density.
    The optimal density will develop the desired Lab-value; defined by the standard (e.g. ISO 12647-2).
    By using PrintControl, compensation-curves will be created. Develop plates with the linear- AND DGC - curve and print it.

    3. Fine Tuning
    Adjust the curves to match the proof, based on the standard-profile in the proofer-software.


    PrintControl is a very useful application because it's wizard-based.
    RapidCheck will be used to verify the desired parameters and adjust them if necessary



    Grtz


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