Why do CMYK process builds get changed?

[gordo]

I doubt it. The Illustrator black preferences only pertain to vector elements created in the Illustrator document. Depending on whether you import or link to files you incorporate into an Illustrator document you'll either keep the original profile in an image or replace it with the document profile, but in this case, if I'm understanding what you're asking, you've got a CMYK .jpg--the one you linked to--that you opened in Photoshop, and got the results you got depending on how you opened it.

I might not have been clear. The printer was supplied a CMYK illustrator file. There's no jpeg or PShop involved. The PShop question was a separate issue.

thx, gordon

[Correct Color]

Oh.

Well, that--his Illustrator black preference--would likely explain the black patch only converting to CMYK in Rampage.

[Stephen Marsh]

Stephen,

We'll probably have to agree to disagree--at least on how to define what happens. And while you do have a point, I'll tell you why I disagree:

I agree that we will have to agree to disagree Mike.

I actually started--when I wrote what you highlighted--to include some qualifier like "for all intents and purposes" or "in essence" before 'assigns.'
But I decided not to just for clarity's sake. Because the fact is, by accepted color management terminology, assigning the working space profile is exactly what clicking on that option does.

This is the sticking point for me, clicking that option (don't colour managea) does not assign, as no profile is assigned to the file. The working space for that colour mode is simply assumed. So in my opinion, there is a big difference between assigning and assuming, which is why I can't simply agree with this statement.

A file that has a profile assigned to it will have that profile tagged to the file. A file that is "non colour managed" will not have any profile tagged to the file. The working space is assumed and will be assumed to be different depending on the colour settings of the installation opening the file.


Sincerely,

Stephen Marsh