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    Default Update of CTP Agfa Palladio

    Hello,
    I am a user of Agfa ctp Palladio with Lithostar LAP-V plates.

    Recently I have been offered an update of my equipment that would change my processor machine to a VCF-85 in order to use a chemistry free plate. However, I have not been told which plate/s I will be able to use.

    I would like to know which plate I have to use if I make this change. And if I would have the option of buying any other brand such us Kodak, Fuji or whatever.

    Thank you very much for your assistance.

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    N92-VCF plates (photopolymer).
    Tonal reproduction: 2%-98% at 110 lpi for AGFA Balanced Screening... no more.
    1-99% (180 lpi) for Sublima
    That's for newspaper web
    For commercial - Azura V, but it needs pre-heat.

    With VCF-85 you'll be stuck down to AGFA as you are now with LAP-V

    Both types need >30mW violet laser CTP. What about your Palladio?

    Are you still in?
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    Thank you very much VladCanada for your information.

    So what they have offered has no advantage for me. It makes no sense to pay for something that does not take me out from a monopolistic supply.
    As a local saying goes "same dog with different collar"

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    Quote Originally Posted by alborbison View Post
    Thank you very much VladCanada for your information.

    So what they have offered has no advantage for me. It makes no sense to pay for something that does not take me out from a monopolistic supply.
    As a local saying goes "same dog with different collar"
    Sure you do, Use VPP processor (for Palladio) instead of Lp-82 Lithostar LAP-V processor and get your Photo Polymer Chemistry based plates from any supplier you like. Please open the Link. I believe it is too early to use Process less plates. You will get hooked to the suppliers.

    http://agfabeint01.net.agfa.com/bu/gs/dms/Marketing.nsf/AllDocs/DEFDF41BFFC19604C125739F003611F2/$FILE/ds_VPP_68_GB_20071101%203.0.pdf

    Hope this will help!
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    Thank you very much Armya Inc for your answer.
    I do not understand how that VPP processor works, what makes it different from the other one VCF-85?
    What plates would I be able to use with it?

    Kind regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladCanada View Post
    N92-VCF plates (photopolymer).
    Tonal reproduction: 2%-98% at 110 lpi for AGFA Balanced Screening... no more.
    1-99% (180 lpi) for Sublima
    That's for newspaper web
    For commercial - Azura V, but it needs pre-heat.

    With VCF-85 you'll be stuck down to AGFA as you are now with LAP-V

    Both types need >30mW violet laser CTP. What about your Palladio?

    Are you still in?
    Our Palladio has 15mW violet laser, so it is not compatible for processor-less plates, or photopolymer plates. We ended up pulling the Palladio system out and installed Kodak Trendsetter with Thermal Direct plates which are processor-less.

    -Sev

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sev View Post
    Our Palladio has 15mW violet laser, so it is not compatible for processor-less plates, or photopolymer plates. We ended up pulling the Palladio system out and installed Kodak Trendsetter with Thermal Direct plates which are processor-less.

    -Sev
    You mean your Palladio was 5mw, you didn't go for $13000 used 30mw Laser on it and you didn't invest on a $10000 processor and ended up pulling palladio system out and installed(invested) on a Kodak Trendsetter. This is all beside the cost of Installation, removing etc,etc,etc. This is what you did. Am I right? Hope you sold your Palladio for a good price.

    This is a 5mw refurbished one.Please open the link:

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    Quote Originally Posted by alborbison View Post
    Thank you very much Armya Inc for your answer.
    I do not understand how that VPP processor works, what makes it different from the other one VCF-85?
    What plates would I be able to use with it?

    Kind regards
    Vlad explained this in detail. The VPP processor is the one used for commercial purposes with pre-heat capability. You can use different Photopolymer plates from different suppliers. For your Palladio, you will need VPP-68 Online + you will need to upgrade your Laser to 30mw(If it is still 5mW). Some people in manufacturing told me once the Laser is in fact 60mW and not 30mW, but in real life because of the Palladio 30 brand we all think and believe the Laser is 30 mW. For Violet Photopolymer Plates, there are many suppliers. Just search in the Internet.Pick the right supplier and enjoy the cost and the quality of the pales without being hooked to a single supplier.

    Cheers!
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    Hi. I also have an agfa palladio and i'm looking to switch to photopolymer plates. The problem is agfa does not want to change it because the agfa reseller in Chile (south america) does not sell these plates and are not interested in them. Can anybody give me a good advice on how to proceed or where to get a compatible processor without going to agfa?
    I'll use this post to also ask, ¿can anybody advice me on a good plates supplier? In chile i get the lithostar lap-v plates for 11 usd or so.

    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChileanPrinter View Post
    Hi. I also have an agfa palladio and i'm looking to switch to photopolymer plates. The problem is agfa does not want to change it because the agfa reseller in Chile (south america) does not sell these plates and are not interested in them. Can anybody give me a good advice on how to proceed or where to get a compatible processor without going to agfa?
    I'll use this post to also ask, ¿can anybody advice me on a good plates supplier? In chile i get the lithostar lap-v plates for 11 usd or so.

    Thank you!
    you can upgrade your Agfa Palladio. I know 4 used polymer processors compatible with your Palladio in Canada and US. Unlike Silver halide Plates,There are many suppliers of Polymer Plates and Thermal Plates in the market.


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