Canon Imagepress 7000 & Kodak M700

[Diko]

They look like the same machine ? Does any one know where they are manufactured.
I talked to my Canon guy and he's assures me they make the machine or does Kodak. Who's technology is it?

Cheers

[Mrchip65]

The Print engine is manufactured by Canon, however Kodak had engineers in Japan for 2 years working on the program. The Frontend for the Kodak is designed and built by Kodak. It is similar to the frontend on the Nexpress. The Frontend for the canon is EFI (I think).

[Diko]

Do you think Kodak have had much influence on it. I like the Nexpress and would look further at the M700 if it had a some of the fruit from the NP on it.

[JRV]

There is quite a bit of Kodak technology in the Canon 7000. Kodak and Canon jointly developed the product, and Canon does manufacture the engine. The M700 differs in that it uses operator-replaceable components (just like the NexPress....although different components of course), and it does use the same front end as the NexPress line which makes upgrading easier when that time comes.

[rogue]

The C7000VP is a Canon engine all the way. Other than the usual industry sharing there is virtually no Kodak involvement. Canon spent several billion designing this engine from the ground floor. Kodak's M700 is a scaled down version of the C7000VP (1-POD deck and 1-Stacker). Anyone telling you Kodak is highly involved in the design of this product is either greatly mis-informed or is outright lying. Sorry.

Kodak is offering it's own RIP, while Canon offers 3 RIPs from EFI and a Canon RIP.

[rogue]

Oh. And one more thing. They are both manufactured by Canon.

[JRV]

Hmmm....our shop is looking at both right now and leaning towards the M700. I'm told that the Kodak RIP uses the new Adobe PDF Engine which is suposed to eliminate transparency issues. Do the Canon or Fiery RIPs have this? Also, we like the self-service model that Kodak is offering and haven't seen anything like it from Canon.

[cosmo]

canon definalely makes them, kodak is a rebadger.

[rogue]

Canon is announcing it's customer replacable modules I believe next month -- it isn't entirely 'self-service'. Just a service designed to reduce downtime by allowing the customer to replace certain parts which would ordinarily be serviced by a technician.

I'll have to check on the adobe pdf engine. I would characterize EFI's relationship with Adobe and Canon as extremely tight, so I wouldn't see why not.

Edited by: rogue on Mar 13, 2008 7:45 PM

[JRV]

It sounds like you work for Canon, (or IKON/Danka/etc...)?