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Old 11-17-2008, 07:03 PM
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If you are pushing the limits of the machine day in and day out you will be inclined to have more maintenance than "normal" therefor and unhappy owner/operator, no matter what the brand. Have you had prints from the 5000AP with a Fiery vs a Freeflow RIP? Just curious to see if there is a change, also was the machine calibrated first?

In my opinion the 700 is not the machine if you are going to be running 300gsm through daily, you will never get anything done 15 to 17 imp is slow, about 1 print every 4 seconds!

I don't know if I totally agree with your thought on the wax polymar toner as upgrading technology, I have a Canon IR3200 that uses this type of toner and it is 6 years old. I still do not like the look of this toner on gloss coated stock, it always appears too flat, like crayons, this is from all the machines that use this toner. If it was such an upgrade then why is the iGen 4 still using a wet fuser? I run prints every day on my 8000AP that you will have a hard time telling if they came from a press or digital device. The 8000AP does not put down as much fuser oil as others will have you believe, the gloss is lower when running in All Weight mode. I was also told from a Xerox color analyst the the Creo on the 5000 will make more of a gloss look than the Fiery.

Also at 60 to 90k per month you may want to consider a move to a larger box, either the 7000AP or 8000AP, most folks tend to grow their volume through the lease.
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the 700 has plenty of problems and faws, also the new toner is not perfect. Needs major improvements to become really stable and usable, especially on 300g.
With the volume you mention I would go for the 7000AP.
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