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[raycootz]

How many of you are dealing direct with OCE versus a dealer?

Thank you.

Ray

[CSimpson]

I am in Louisiana and it is kinda strange. At one time there was a company called Imagistics and Oce bought them; however, Imagistics within Louisiana was an individually owned subsidiary of Imagistics or something to that effect. So, in Louisiana you had Oce and you had Corporate Oce. They divided their territory in the cut sheet market based on print shop size (I actually think is done by something stupid like square feet or something), and all the wide format equipment is done through Corporate Oce. So, in my case my service on my cut sheet equipment comes from Oce, my service on my wide format printer comes from Corporate Oce, and all my leases are through Oce Financial. The funny thing is the guy that service my wide format is trained on the 6250, but he can't touch mine, but my service techs can use him as a resource. The people who came in for training and set up the software were Corporate Oce and if I have a problem that is who I would call. The whole thing is strange because it is like Oce has a dealer that they own who can only sell and service Oce cut sheet hardware, and from what I can gather from people it all goes back to a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo involving Imagistic before Oce bought them. I am not sure if this structure will remain this way after the restructuring due to the Canon deal, but I am used to it now and believe it or not it really doesn't bother me.

[DocuGo!]

I think Nuvera will be the best option for mailing because

In mailing production you just print on preprented or blank stock. and you will put the letter into envelope inserter. Oce result will damage the prints because envelope inserter using rubber roller that will scuffing the letter and some text/graphic will missing (Not good)

Nuvera is comparable to Kodak Digimaster and Oce 6160 (xerox has better service)
Oce have the similar result on black colour with offset (which is not solid black) but you can scuff the print result from OCE (Not good).

If you print a lot of novel or student book, choose OCE 6000 series.

xerox 4000 series is comparable to KM1050 and OCE4000 series. good for high volume BW for schools and academic that you need finishing option such as stapling, booklet making, hole punching.

I hope that will help.

[raycootz]

CSimpson,

Thank you for the information about who and how service is working for you. It gets interesting at times between these two channels.

Ray

[raycootz]

DocuGo,

Thank you for this valuable information. Years ago we looked at OCE and found the same concerns with the mailing environment.

Ray