Canon C9075

[CMCRhonda]

Gypsy -

We have the Ricoh C-900. You can check my other posts for more detailed information, but we upgraded from lower end Konika equipment to this last spring. If you have specific questions I'd be happy to answer them.

Overall, we're pretty happy with the C-900. Color is beautiful for flyers, posters, etc - we have the Fiery RIP, and the spectrometer, but honestly don't need to calibrate often for our runs. We don't have the scanning/glass, but the print speed is 90 ppm, and it doesn't really slow down for heavier stocks. We run a lot of 12 point C1S through it - have to use the Large capacity drawers, but it runs pretty well. Solids are tricky - we've mostly had service calls to clean up run marks, and we had to have 2 drums replaced as there were marks on a specific project, but they were about due anyway.

We probably run 80-100% coverage on most projects. Toner can look oily on certain artwork/stock combos, but using a matte digital stock has helped. Also, there is an oil that has to evaporate, so some heavy coverage jobs don't look great straight off, but after drying, they are great.

[GypsyDriver]

Rhonda.
Thanks for the informations.
I knew that the C900 was a good choice but up here, in the very cold country, and with the exchange, the C-900 is aproximatly 30K more expensive and since my budget is a little tight right now, I think I will go with the 9075.
BUT, nothing is done right now and I will propably wait until the first week in January to make a move.
Since the Canon will not be available here until mid-December, by the time it's installed and the people are trained, it will be the Xmas holiday and not much is happening at this time.

b.t.w., nice web site...
I saw that you have 3 canons and now, you should change the old Konica for the C-900.

GypsyDriver.

[CMCRhonda]

Lol - you're right, I'll have to get after Sales and Marketing....

We do have the Canon's for B&W - we do a lot of VDP for fulfifllment & mailing, and the Canon's have been awesome for us, real workhorses.

Good luck with your purchase!

Rhonda

[daveburden]

Originally Posted by X33

WARNING : the Canon ImageRunner C9075 is an office color multifunction machine

you are so obviously biased, if you want to appear impartial maybe you should change your profile pic. And get a clue, the new Canon iR ADVANCE is light production. Its a new unit just launched to fill the void they had when they retired it CLC line. The click charge is going to be more in line with what print shops have been getting from KM and Xerox and has the amazing quality of the imagePRESS line.

[lfelton]

I just don't get this "amazing quality" claim that Canon make. When we were buying another digital press, we had our test prints done by all the major vendors and the ones that came back from Canon were not good. I sat down with Canon, showed them what was wrong with their test prints and they sorted out a new set. These were much better, very nice prints. I sat down again with Canon and went through their pricing proposal and got the claim that their machines were more expensive to run as they had a higher image quality. So, I showed them the test samples from HP, Xerox, KM and Canon. The HP samples were clearly better (but this comes at a price!), the other samples were all good and pretty much all as good as each other. Facts is facts and the Canon rep had to admit there was no way you could make any claims that any of the KM/Canon/Xerox were better than each other.

The 7000VP prints nice, but no nicer than the others.

[Craig]

I agree with lfelton, most of the print engines within the same price range print close to the same quality. Having choose between the Canon 7000VP and Xerox 8000AP, both were just about equal in print quality, Xerox had more to offer and Canon dropped the ball with me on a CLC4000 on my shop floor. Each manufacture has a strong point, your job is to find out what fits your needs.

[X33]

Originally Posted by daveburden

you are so obviously biased, if you want to appear impartial maybe you should change your profile pic. And get a clue, the new Canon iR ADVANCE is light production. Its a new unit just launched to fill the void they had when they retired it CLC line. The click charge is going to be more in line with what print shops have been getting from KM and Xerox and has the amazing quality of the imagePRESS line.

I stand corrected.

When I first heard about this unit, I heard it was called Canon ImageRunner C9075, which is the brand name for office color.

This unit is actually called ImageRunner Advance, which is Canon's new brand name to enter the Light Production market.

Let's see if the machine can perform as it says.

[bsiderys]

The new 9075 pro is in the Canon lineup to compete with the Xerox 250, 252,253 and the Konica 6501 products. The Canon ImagePress is not in the same class and should be compared with the xerox 7000. Just because a company says a product is production (i.e. the konica) does not mean it will hold up. Sure it will do 300gm, but good luck when you have long runs and try to keep that stock moving through the machine.

The new Canon product has great quality and features. The new office model number is the 7065.

[LugNut]

What I want to know is how much is this thing config'd with external fiery, large cap feeder and booklet finisher? Not just the MSRP. Anyone buy one yet?
We were just recently offered a deal on the Advanced C5051 for our small print shop to upgrade from our IRC 3200. Only when I found out the C5051 was not even light production did we rule it out and go toward X DC260.
$ for $ the C9075 may match up with the X 700 but it's an unproven box. Canon is still playing catch up in the light production market and only time will tell if this offering redeems Canon.

[bsiderys]

I don't know if the 7065 wouldn't have been a better match. I know they both duplex the same stock, the finishers are a wash. The 9075 may be the right one if you wanted more draws with the 300gsm...capability.

As far as the unproven comment. I would have to say five or ten years ago that makes sense, but the pre-testing that takes place should keep most of the problems at bay. The proven record with the Imagepress should also help ease any fears of the product. From what I have seen the new Canon machines looks like the top player in the Light Production arena. I believe there is also an effort to make the Creo available.

The other item that should help drive the new Canon Pro is the recent expansion of distribution via Oce'. I think the Konica 6501 and 55 ppm machines will be first on the list to be removed by Canon when the deal is complete.

Overall, Canon's product will increase their market share and make others redesign or upgrade products.