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    Quote Originally Posted by gcspec View Post
    Ah yes, once again, the KM guys just can't resist spreadking their special brand of love! Good morning sunshine - how are you feeling today?? Were you a former Xerox employee or something? Show me any KM product that can run 3.5 million impressions a month on 14" X 22" and actually hit and hold colors - then you can speak all you'd like! Always being honest, I am a Xerox rep. I just installed the new DocuColor 7002 right across the room from one of your beloved 6500 machines and the funniest thing happened...the Xerox actually matched the offset and proof sample exactly and the KM had a really high abundance of yellow on the page printed from the same file - when measured, the delta was 9.3! How can that be, listening to you, the KM is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Oh yeah, and that KM was calibrated that very morning. Please stop trying to make your product into something that it is not and will never be!
    Show me any xerox product that can run 3.5 million impressions a month on 14" X 22" and actually hit and hold colors that is in the same segment as konica products. I mean, I doubt you could do this on a 700 as you would run out of toner, should the amount of skew and patchy density be acceptable.

    You randomly walk in and compare a print of some machine 'somewhere' doesn't mean it is not capable of matching a print, I have done it dozens of times. Then I go and laminate it with any lamination process and it doesn't peel off, it's great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by che.c View Post
    I had to.. again..

    Loved it when I first saw it, thanks che.c. Printed it out and put it up on the wall. Both the Xerox and the Konica techs were frowning at it. Guess I can take it down now that I've got rid of the Konicas, save for one small b&w one that has been waiting for a spare for only a few months.

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    Ever heard of an iGen? That's the big Xerox machine you guys try to tell customers that you can outrun with your office copiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcspec View Post
    Ever heard of an iGen? That's the big Xerox machine you guys try to tell customers that you can outrun with your office copiers.
    I thought I said in the same range as the 65 which the igen is obviously not. Although you could get about 15 6500's for the price of an igen. Speed isn't really a factor Here as the quality off an igen is truely disapointing.
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    Hi guys,

    I admire you for supporting your employees, but believe me, most of us want to have some more details and opinions on that topic and I personally wasted like 15 minutes with your argue. That's ridiculous it makes no sense to compare trucks with Mini's, they are completely different as you know.

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    I agree. I've found a lot of useful information on this site (thanks to everyone who's contributed!), but a lot of time is wasted skimming through all the different arguments between sales reps. I know I'm here, but I'm sure others would agree that if you want to make a sales pitch, start your own thread and highlight your equipment there. Please leave the other topics alone so people don't get discouraged into coming here. The initial question was to see if anyone knew anything about the newly announced Xerox printer, not whether a dozen KM6500s are as good as an Igen. To answer that question, my guess is that anyone who does know anything about these printers is under non-disclosure and unable to discuss anything until Xerox officially releases that information. Until then, all we can do is guess.

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    I think you Konica guys are drinking way too much kool aid!

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    Oh well, life goes on.

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    Well has a new member I have found some of the info on this new Colour 1000/800 interesting but I have to say there is more crap cluttering up this thread then good info so if there is a mod here I would strip it out.

    Now I would like more facts about this machine and what other kit would be in the same league as come September our site will be looking to replace our three Xerox 8000 which are coming out of pepper corn.

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    Sorry to let you down, but while we do have some information, we have been non-disclosed. The wait for info will be a bit longer, in the US anyway.


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