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    stdougal is offline Junior Member
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    Default Creo Vs Fiery RIP

    Hi,

    We are currently looking at getting a Konica Minolta C8000. We have a choice between 2 rip's Fiery (IC-306) and Creo (IC-307). Despite researching the pro's and con's of each one I am still at a loss to decide which one is better.

    We are an offset house that is starting to do a lot of VDP (Using Xmpie). Does anyone have any experience putting variable data files through any of these rip's. Which one is better at handling colours (matching to offset) and processing variable data (is there a difference in processing variable files speed wise?)

    Any help would be greatly appreciated !!

    Thank you

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    We have a Fiery pile of crap, get a Creo!!

    Hope thats technical enough for you.

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    Default Creo

    Fierys have come a long way however I think Creos have the edge, esp when it comes to VDP. The Fiery needs to reprocess alot of the time when you're making changes to files which can affect overall productivity. On the Ricoh C901 however I like the Fiery's ability to link output profiles with calibration sets and then with the paper catalog. Creo as far as I know can't do that.

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    Weve had a Fiery forever and have met our fair share of problems, Yes it needs to rerip a lot of the times, yes there are issues, yes creo has made a nice comeback with the latest rip. HOWEVER

    EFI is currently in the process of slowly becoming the Workflow party to deal with when you get into Digital Print. If they manage to sell more DSF more Central and more CPS they might become the most supported workflow party ever. How about Creo? I know its good tech i know its smart thought of but they deliver a reasonably standard config for alle engines where EFI uses all engine capabilities to its best capacity.

    What im saying is i think EFI will be developping more and faster solutions now the DP market has finally started to be taken seriously. Creo will be right behind so you need to decide :

    Who is like Apple and who is like Microsoft and what provider suits me best.

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    I ran a Fiery, now on Creo so I have a knowledge of both and Creo is much better when it comes to VDP. XMPie will output VPS and the RIPing will go much faster. As far as color, Creo links calibration tables to paper type (unless you decide otherwise), so that's a no-brainer.

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    Don't touch the Fiery if you are used to offset work. The Creo will allow you much more consistency with color over time and for us, works much better for VDP. The Fiery has more doo-dads and gadgets but when it comes to production work, that is a moot point. Our customers don't want blue this month and purple next month, which is what we have seen from the Fiery.

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    Our company is upgrading our C1 to a KM6500. Konica is finding me a lightly used machine and a couple of them have the Creo rip and the latest one they've found comes with a Fiery rip. The sales gal is telling me the external Fiery with it is fully loaded with the Premium graphics package, spectrophotometer, color suite, etc., basically upgraded with everything possible. She says it is every bit as good as the Creo, but then again, she's trying to sell me the machine. We'll see! It handles VDP as well, which is something sort of new for me. Always something new to learn!


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