Bizub Pro 1200

[Craig]

Going to demo a bizhub pro 1200 in a couple days. Anything I should look out for?

Right now I have a Ricoh MP9000 that's almost 5 years old and has 14.25MM on it. We average about 200K/month. The MP9000 has all but died, it's becoming a maintenance headache, it's gotta go.

Anyone have a 1200 with some volume on it? If so, what is your feedback?

[KMPP]

500K A3 Clicks should have no major problem.

[lfelton]

Going to demo a bizhub pro 1200 in a couple days. Anything I should look out for?

Right now I have a Ricoh MP9000 that's almost 5 years old and has 14.25MM on it. We average about 200K/month. The MP9000 has all but died, it's becoming a maintenance headache, it's gotta go.

Anyone have a 1200 with some volume on it? If so, what is your feedback?

Craig - felt bad that you didn't have much response so here goes:

don't have any experience of the 1200, but the input trays & finishing look a lot like the 6501 and I can tell you a little about those. Our highest count 6501 is 2 and a bit years old and on about 3M SRA3 (we only run the largest sheets) and no horror stories to tell so far. There was a niggle with the high capacity stacker (the one with the dolly) and that took about 3 visits to fix and we've had a couple of issues with the high cap feeders, but those were both fixed quite quickly. Something to do with "broken wires", sorry I don't know the technicalities. Our 6501s are run all day every day (single shift, or shift and a half, not 24hrs) so I'm pretty happy with the reliability.

I hope that helps. FWIW we have a single 4127 for the B&W. That was OK while our volumes were low on B&W, but it's not been such a happy bunny with higher volumes. It's OK when it runs, with very good image quality. But we've had several breakdowns and quality problems, and it's been a real bear to get fixed. I'm looking very closely at upgrading to an Oce 6160 and have been impressed so far with what I've seen. I realise that's too much gun for your situation, but might be worth putting Oce into the evaluation mix.

[chrisg42]

Going to demo a bizhub pro 1200 in a couple days. Anything I should look out for?

Right now I have a Ricoh MP9000 that's almost 5 years old and has 14.25MM on it. We average about 200K/month. The MP9000 has all but died, it's becoming a maintenance headache, it's gotta go.

Anyone have a 1200 with some volume on it? If so, what is your feedback?

We've got a 1051 (exactly the same engine) with about a million on it. Typical monthly volumes in the 80-150k range. No major problems - it just seems to run. We have the suction-fed high capacity trays: they feed just about anything we put in them, including litho preprinted shells.

The one thing that I regret not buying is the high-capacity stacker. As with many machines of this type, the standard finishers don't really complement the high-cap feeders that well.

[Craig]

Thanks for the responses, going tomorrow AM to demo, will let you know what I think.

[JayDA]

the input trays & finishing look a lot like the 6501 and I can tell you a little about those.

Actually, they are the same exact trays found on the 8000 or 1051, the "suction" fed ones. I am told you can also get the trays with rollers similar to the 6500/6501, but I'm not sure why you would want to. I have 2 C8000s and 2 1200s with the newer style trays, and they've been great so far. They are a little different at first, until you get used to them, but I think they're far superior.

[Craig]

So the demo went well. It looks as if this is going to be a good fit in my shop. Now just need to sit down and figure out what configuration will "fit" physically! Thanks for the input!!

[Hemlock]

One of the unmentioned bonuses is the amount of flat workspace you'll get, especially on the bulk cassette units, but continuing down the length of the train.