konica minolta 6501 vs 6000 vs xerox 700

[natty]

Hi All,

We currently have an KM-5501 and are needing additional output capacity as we are really slamming it hard... (100,000 + SRA3 per month)

My first initial thought was just to add another 5501, as it would double our output capacity, and is the same engine so the same image quality / colour etc...

The KM salesrep is recommending (no big surprise) that we go to the new 6000 / 7000 - possibly just adding a 6000 or trading in the 5501 for 2 x 6000 (which i know is going to cost us big time as i would assume they wouldn't give us much trade in on the 5501)

So the trade in not really being an option, how much different is the output from the new 6000 vs the 5501 (could we print a clients job on one and then the other and they would notice a big difference ?)

The heavier weight duplex is very appealing which is why we are looking at the new series...

We have also spoken with Xerox who have come back with some very competitive pricing on the 700, but again, is the print quality going to be better / different so much so that it renders our 5501 useless ?

I know the Xerox is completely different engine which is probably going to cause many issues trying to run the 2 machines side by side, but with the pricing that Konica is offering at the moment the Xerox seems like a much better buy (i don't know why as Konica is normally cheaper ? well they were when we bought our first 5501 but they claim that we basically got the fiery for free as there was some EFI promotion or something ???)

We are in Australia by the way...

Any ideas ?

[richwitney]

We've just been through the same procedure - we are hitting 100k per month, so we've plumped for a KM C8000 - possibly more than you were looking to spend but there are some very good deals around at the moment.

[ScotJ]

We had a C6500 (not c6501) and our click charges recently increased.

We decided to get a 700, and not only did the savings in clicks completely offset our new lease payment on the 700; but the colour quality and saturation is WAY better. Not to mention solid black pieces that are just black clicks are as solid as running a complex black on the Konica.

Only short fall is that our local distro office is out of toner on occasion (and we're in Toronto).

Just my .02

Cheers

[graymatter]

WADR to ScotJ, the entire digital printer sales universe RUNS on the "not only did the savings in clicks completely offset our new lease payment" model.

The 6000/7000 is *much* better than the 6500, and if you want a really good machine and don't need scanning/copying, get the C70hc. High chroma toner POPS. Ask your dealer/branch for the comparison sample document.

[natty]

Xerox have just come back in with a great price on a 800, which we never thought we would make the leap to just yet, but the price is actually cheaper than the Konica 8000...

I think the Konica rep is not giving us the best pricing if this is the case, as i understand the Xerox 800 is a much better machine than the KM 8000 correct ?

[RKS]

Yes, the 800 is a much better machine. We just finished testing the 8000, Canon 7010vp & the 800. We ordered an 800 which will be installed in mid-September.

[kdonegan]

Xerox 800 cheaper? I have just received proposals on the Xerox 800 and KM8000,
If the base service charge is lumped in on the 800, it is more than double the price I received.for KM8000?
60 month FMV lease.

No doubt 800 the better machine but the pricing is not even close for us.

[RKS]

Yes, the 800 is more expensive, but the service, reliability, the clear toner are the deal makers.

[JustPrint!]

Xerox sales peeps are extremely desperate. I am getting hounded monthly from 3 different Xerox sales channel. And all these guys know that I hate Xerox with a passion but still calling... go figure.

So... great deals out there now. I couldn't believe how much Xerox is selling their equipment now. That means they were doing MAJOR price gouging back in the days!