KM SD-506 Saddle Stitcher throughput expectations

[Manatarms]

Hi Guys,

I currently have both a KM C6500 and C7000. I’ve been landing a few more booklet jobs lately, and I currently use the light duty FS-612 to produce them. This works fine for small orders and books with 2 or 3 gut pages and the cover, but anything thicker really needs face trimming. I get throughput of about 5 books per minute when using running 148gsm gloss covers through the post inserter and using 3 pages of duplexed B&W 75gsm laser paper for the guts.

For those of you with and SD-506, what type of throughput would you expect on a job like this, adding face trimming to the equation?

Best regards,

Mark

[Craig]

I have the SD-506 on my 1200 and the thing is a tank. It will run at the rated speed of the machine, so whatever your 6500 and 7000 will run, it will keep up. We have stitched and trimmed as many as 28 signatures printed on 60lb text with a 80lb cover inserted. I checked the counters, we have run 6,700 books (282,000 sheets just through the SD-506) through it without a glitch since it was installed in August.

[Manatarms]

I have the SD-506 on my 1200 and the thing is a tank. It will run at the rated speed of the machine, so whatever your 6500 and 7000 will run, it will keep up. We have stitched and trimmed as many as 28 signatures printed on 60lb text with a 80lb cover inserted. I checked the counters, we have run 6,700 books (282,000 sheets just through the SD-506) through it without a glitch since it was installed in August.

Craig,

Thanks for the info. Are you printing the booklets all on the same paper (guts and cover the same) as one job, or or are you running separate covers and inserting them into the job? I've heard the 506 has some trimming limitations, especially with heavier covers.

Mark

[Craig]

Running covers om my Xerox and inserting them. I have run up to 100lb gloss cover without a problem. The limitations may fall when you program the paper weight. In that case just lie to it.

[JayDA]

I have two of them, one on each of my C8000s, and I agree with Craig. They're solid as a rock, I run 100lb gloss covers around lighter guts all the time, they run at the rated speed of the machine with no issues.

[Manatarms]

I have two of them, one on each of my C8000s, and I agree with Craig. They're solid as a rock, I run 100lb gloss covers around lighter guts all the time, they run at the rated speed of the machine with no issues.

JayDA,

By running at rated speed do you mean the machine does not pause or hesitate on printing when it's making booklets? For example, your C8000 does 80ppm, so you get 1.33 letter impressions per minute. If you were making a 16 page booklet using 8.5x11 stock to output 5.5 x 8.5 booklet (1 cover = 4 "pages" and 3 interior sheets = 12 "pages"), your machine would have to print 3 duplexed 8.5x11 pages to create the interior. this is 6 impressions x 1.33...so your machine will print the interior pages in 8 seconds. Would your booklet maker spit out one booklet every 8 seconds, or is there a delay due to cover insertion and/or handing the pages before folding/trimming?

thanks!

Mark

[Craig]

Mark, when we are printing booklets from the 1200 the finisher DOES NOT make the engine pause or slow down, the 1200 runs at 120 pages per minute.

[kdonegan]

I have the SD-506 on my 1200 and the thing is a tank. It will run at the rated speed of the machine, so whatever your 6500 and 7000 will run, it will keep up. We have stitched and trimmed as many as 28 signatures printed on 60lb text with a 80lb cover inserted. I checked the counters, we have run 6,700 books (282,000 sheets just through the SD-506) through it without a glitch since it was installed in August.

Craig, how do you insert the cover? i was told that the post inserter is not compatible with the 506 when I tried to spec it on a C8000?
thanks

[Craig]

Again we have the SD-506 on a KM 1200 B/W machine. Your configuration may not be the same. Our options for inserting were FD-503 (which is what we went with) or PF-PFU.

[Toner4Brains]

Craig, how do you insert the cover? i was told that the post inserter is not compatible with the 506 when I tried to spec it on a C8000?
thanks

In order to post insert on the C8000, you have to actually get the FD-503 Folding Unit which has 2 500 sheet post insertion sources. The FD-503 is absolutely compatible with the SD-506 - you could even throw a perfect binder and a staple finisher after the SD-506 and it wouldn't be out of configuration.