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    Quote Originally Posted by edocpublish.com View Post
    Cons:

    1. The presses are slow
    2. Paper curls
    3. Digital paper Selection is small and expensive
    4. Registration Sucks and did I mention presses are slow , With time it even gets slower. All of the machines are based on 8.5 x 11 sheet. If you print 11 x 17 cut the speed in half. Some even get slower with thicker coated paper.
    5. It goes down more often than a regular press
    6. Colors may shift in the middle of the run depending on the press
    7. Click charges are high for jobs over 3,000
    * Slow? the Xerox iGen 4 220 can run up to 220 impressions per minute
    * Paper curls? from the smallest Xerox in the production line, the Xerox 550, the units can now have built-in decurlers that can be adjusted on the fly
    * Digital paper selection. Small? Every year there are more and more vendors providing digital media; some with specialty media like magnets, window decals, synthetics, texture, etc. Expensive? compared to offset papers? yes.
    * Registration? some digital presses have a registration of 0.5mm front to back
    * Speed slows down? of course, if the sheet is larger the paper has to travel more. but based on paper weights, some digital presses won't slow down
    * downtime? highly dependable on operator
    * color shifting? every press has a deltaE spec. Some presses have built-in spectrophotometers to keep color consistent
    * jobs over 3000? digital presses are for short runs; 3,000 may be the break even point to switch to offset

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    * Slow? the Xerox iGen 4 220 can run up to 220 impressions per minute
    How many people can afford the payments on an iGen? Really!

    * Paper curls? from the smallest Xerox in the production line, the Xerox 550, the units can now have built-in decurlers that can be adjusted on the fly
    You still have paper curl issues when it comes to finishing!

    * Digital paper selection. Small? Every year there are more and more vendors providing digital media; some with specialty media like magnets, window decals, synthetics, texture, etc. Expensive? compared to offset papers? yes.
    So the poster is correct.

    * Registration? some digital presses have a registration of 0.5mm front to back
    Registration wonders over time and you end up chasing it around the sheet. Until tech changes the registration rollers then you get to start all over again!

    * Speed slows down? of course, if the sheet is larger the paper has to travel more. but based on paper weights, some digital presses won't slow down
    Again correct.

    * downtime? highly dependable on operator
    BS... pure BS, I would challenge ANY operator to make a toner device last more than a few hundred thousand without having to place a call or throw parts into it.

    * color shifting? every press has a deltaE spec. Some presses have built-in spectrophotometers to keep color consistent
    What about inboard/outboard color shifts, reprint color shifts due to climate changes?

    * jobs over 3000? digital presses are for short runs; 3,000 may be the break even point to switch to offset
    Wrong again unless it is N-up printed.

    Not saying that digital is BAD, just trying to filter through the kool aid infused BS. There is a place for digital machines, they are NOT the end all, be all though!

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    i have 800 but i pay just one rate


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