Xerox 800/1000 monthly volume

[686shred]

I am looking at getting the 1000 digital press - financially it will work well for us (in-house usage).

Monthly volume is projected to be between 400,000-600,000, however it can go as high as 1,000,000 per month.

The Xerox reps obviously state this is above the machines range and won't work and the iGen is the only way to go.

I am wondering what anyone's experience is with the 800/1000 and what is a realistic monthly volume that could be done and if I am truly out of range with 600k as an average. Not just "outside the recommended volume", but actually outside the machine's capability. The 300k the Xerox reps say it handles just seems low. The main problem with the iGen at this time is space, electrical and environmental set-up, though its not out of the question.

[Craig]

Just an FYI. If the CED for the 800/1000 states 300K (average monthly volume) and you are running double that month in and month out, your screwed if you have ANY complaints. Xerox WILL fall back on the CED and tell you that you are violating the agreement as to how you will be operating that machine. Your other option is to get multiple machines (maybe not Xerox) to spread the volume.

[Joe Duffy]

7 million impressions per year does seem high for this level of equipment. Maybe you need to review your expectations to find the piece (pieces) of equipment that will best fit your needs.

[RKS]

We ran our 700 four times what the CED said was the AMV and Xerox stood behind it 100%. We now have an 800 and we're averaging over the 300k and barely making a dent in the useage. If you run higher volumes you have to expect more service calls, but that's with any digital press. We did a cost analysis and it showed after 550k it was less expensive to go with the Igen, but you have to consider the space, electrical and environmental set-up and amoritize those costs also. We needed the Clear Option because a big percent of our business is ad agency/designer work.

[arossetti]

What are you printing? Is it all text weight? Is any of it time sensitive or can you afford to be down for a day or two?

[686shred]

It will be text weight in the main - there will be some heavier weights for postcards, however that is not the intended use of the machine.

Being down for a day or two could definitely become a problem - I'm taking on print jobs that would normally be done outside the company and on a rush basis, so I have to handle it accordingly.

In further analysis, taking the projected March volume, I am coming up with 1.2mil, so that's probably not going to work. Although the clear-dry ink was definitely a plus for us.

We're reviewing space plans and environmental for the iGen - is there any resource to calculate estimated electrical bill increases?

[arossetti]

686Shred -

I have the customer installation planning guide from xerox for an Igen4 if you would like to PM me your e-mail I can send it to you. It has the power consumption also.

[geoprinter]

We are currently running the xerox 800 and averaging about 130,000 images per month and have had nothing but problems. The main issues are especially with the duplexing and jamming. This is well below the xerox advertised 300,000 images per month, but we still have problems on a consistent basis. We run mostly text weight stock, but do run postcards on 100lb cover max. For the past six months we have been unable to duplex any weight cardstock without constantly jamming and are forced to run one side at a time. Is there anyone else having these kinds of problems with their 800/1000?

[arossetti]

Geoprinter - Sounds like you have a dirty fuser or cooling belt. I will PM you my contact info if you want to give me a call and we can discuss. We were having similar issues until recently when we found out the causes.

[jricart]

Can you fit 2 Xerox 800? I think cost (machine price, electrical work, environment requirements, etc) will be less than getting 1 iGen.

Just my 2 cents.

JRT