PDF Workflow

[ripit]

Not knowing much about other workflow systems (Agfa, Prinergy etc..) and how they work as a PDF workflow I would like to know if I can create (or if anyone is using) a PDF WF using Nexus RIP, Import and Processor. My intent is to create a high res (normalize??) PDF to use as a proof for my first round out to the client and then if they OK it rip,trap and make a color proof. My concern would be that the PDF proof and hard copy proof (fuji proof) need to match exactly. I hope that this is clear and any information is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

[jameslwilson]

I know that Nexus will integrate with Backstage - I haven't used it myself, but I have contacts who are very happy with it.

Esko's page on it is here: Nexus RIP - EskoArtwork

[jeffkin15]

2 easy solutions

EskoArtworks Odystar as a front end to your nexus, or the Nexus PDF solution. Turns your nexus into a completely native PDF workflow.

[CHM]

And why would you wanna make an high res normalized pdf?

[Al Ferrari]

Why make him repeat what he already stated in his original post?

Now, if you think he is going about it wrong, just explain what you think he should do.

Al

[CHM]

What i mean is that a normalized pdf is like a device depened pdf, somthing like a postcript, dat is used to be imported in Esko software like Backstage, Plato, ...
So my question was more like why dont you use a normal 1.5 pdf instead of a Normlized one.

[Lukas Engqvist]

I would just ask is the RIP in both the same…Â*on 99% of thejobs it may be identical but having a different RIP on both is important.
Also If you are talking 1.5 pdf I'd be very catious because it allows transparency and that is where RIPs tend to differ. If you are intending to do as you say I would go with a low level PDF as PDFx1a. it is a standard that can be verified. Contains only CMYK and SPOT (note spots ans transparency can look very different on a proofer and print if there is conversion or remapping of spot colurs)
Having two competing vendors is also tricky when they don't match. Your customer signs the proof and you go to print…Â*if there is a difference who's fault (wich is incorrectly rendered) is it FUJI or Nexus?

[CHM]

Do you have Nexus RIP or is it Nexus Total RIP?
And What Lukas says makes sense, so when every body in the flow has uptodate Rips transparanties is the best way to go, if not you wil have to flatten your work B4 you go to an other sytem or Rip.

[Wim-Esko]

What i mean is that a normalized pdf is like a device depened pdf, somthing like a postcript, dat is used to be imported in Esko software like Backstage, Plato, ...

Normalized PDF in Esko is as device independant as a 'native' PDF! Comparing it to PS is even illegal I think ;-). The Normalization that Esko does is like a pre-flight : it avoids non-printable PDFs. it also adds extra smart XMP meta-data ; that's all. In BackStage, PackEdge, Plato and FlexRip, Esko uses licensed Adobe Acrobat technology, not a home-interpreter like in the old years. So this 'normalized' PDF is as legal as any other coming out of Acrobat.

I needed to correct this as there are too many un-truths out here.

Now, a note on the initial question:
If you want your Nexus to become a (native) PDF processor, then contact Esko and ask about the Nexus PDF processor...
This is actually the native PDF processing brain from Odystar enabled on your Nexus. If - on TOP of that- you ask for Job-order management, QC tools, extra communication tools, THEN check BackStage as a 'brain' on top of that Nexus (see < Integration with BackStage - EskoArtwork > )

best regards - Wim

[ripit]

Sorry for all the confusion as I may not be using the proper terminology. Let me start this again
Current WF
Nexus Rip, import and processor
I rip my pages and create a High res (ct/lw) and a low res (eps) file.
I can run the eps file back through Nexus to a proofer or plates and it switches the low res file with the high res file. This is a very secure WF meaning what i get on the proof will match the plate.
Can i get the same security from a PDF WF? Is a normalized PDF the same as the scenerio above?
What you see will proof and plate exactly the same way?
I would like to show my clients a PDF proof first and then if OK submit it to a WF that would create a proof and plate.
I hope this is a better explanation.