Export pdfScope file into an editable Illustrator file

[Ligia]

Hello everybody:

I've been trying to export a pdfScope file into an editable Illustrator file. I have the ticket for that, but it is not a 100% editable one.
I mean, I have to re-link everything again, and all the gradients or effects created in Packedge got embedded, or got damaged, impossible to edit in Illustrator.
You may ask why I want to export a pdfScope file?, well our customers want to apply some changes but of course they don't have Packegde.

is there a better way to export it in a painless way?
I appreciate your time.

Ligia

[Repro_is_still_alive]

All images will be embedded if you are using the export to AI ticket there is no way round that (we have continued to press esko for this function for many years), it is possible to extract the images from the AI file using esko's imageX. I would have to check the gradients when i am back at work.

[Ligia]

Oh, thanks for your answer Repro_is_still_alive.

Unfortunately we don't have the imageX plug-in
I don't mind opening the ct files in Photoshop with the free CT/LP plug-in and placing them over again in AI, but what I hate the most is, when blends, gradients and internal images from PE are flattened with 'everything'. I can't separate that !!! (nor my customers!)....
I agree with you, let's press Esko

Regards
Ligia.

[PetePress]

Oh, thanks for your answer Repro_is_still_alive.
I agree with you, let's press Esko

Regards
Ligia.

Not sure it's esko's fault. Ever tried opening an indesign pdf in illustrator? See what hapens with linked images, swatches & grouped objects. Or edit an ill pdf in acrobat/pitstop and try to open it again in ill... Another one, save a pdf in ill but disable the option "preserve illustrator editing capabilties" and open this pdf in ill again... You'll notice that even all those pdf's made by the same Brand (adobe) are not so compatible as they should be...

[Ligia]

Not sure it's esko's fault. Ever tried opening an indesign pdf in illustrator? See what hapens with linked images, swatches & grouped objects. Or edit an ill pdf in acrobat/pitstop and try to open it again in ill... Another one, save a pdf in ill but disable the option "preserve illustrator editing capabilties" and open this pdf in ill again... You'll notice that even all those pdf's made by the same Brand (adobe) are not so compatible as they should be...

Hello PetePress, I understand your point. Esko has been changing the Packedge 'environment' through the years, most of the palettes used in PE S7 are pretty similar from AI CS. (this is thanks to Adobe), but I've been using PE since 2002 (Packedge 2.0), and I thought there might be something new when exporting files. Yeap, it is not only Esko's issue.

[Al Ferrari]

This is a common misguided view:

"You'll notice that even all those pdf's made by the same Brand (adobe) are not so compatible as they should be..."

See Dov Isaacs' comment on this at this link:

Opening .pdfs in Illustrator

Al

[Ligia]

Thank you Al Ferrari for that Dov Isaacs' good link, it took me a while to respond, because I was reading in a meticulously way.
The point is, a PDF ready for press: it is ok, I have that on Esko's workflow, but the AI file is the one that they need (my customer).
It is my task to explain my customer (again) the difference between a file ready for press and a file for 'design', but argghhh, they don't understand, and besides they don't have another pdf editor like Acrobat Pro or Esko's Neo.
I agree with claude72 on her 07-12-2009 post

• for editing a PDF to fix some pre-press issues or to make little last minute corrections just before imaging, yes, I agree with you Acrobat + PitStop do the job...

• but to transform a PDF, for example extract a logo (and get an EPS file), extract a whole background, change the whole text for another language or another edition (imagine that you get the May PDF of a newspaper as a basis to make the June edition!!!), or other big re-working of a PDF, Acrobat + PitStop are not enough efficient and you have to use other methods or workarounds.

Anyway, we (the pre-press provider) will have to make all customer's changes in our Esko's workflow, but that's not our task, I mean, we DO not design or redesign, (we know how to do it), but we don't have the time for that , and I wanted to give my customer a good and not very expensive alternative for editing these files

(maybe I should jump into the other thread, and leave this one), thanks all.