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    CHM
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    Quote Originally Posted by schenkadere View Post
    I need ArtPro. We do packaging which is very job specific. Automation isn't an option. I guess I would need to edit in ArtPro and export to PDF 1.5 to maintain transparency, then out to Total RIP to create a link for me to step.
    BTW, I am in packaging to:=)
    And we automate alot.

    But why dont you do your S&R direct in ArtPro, you do not need to save a pdf 1st.
    If I understand it right you have a single file in ArtPro, if so just do the S&R with that single file in ArtPro and send thet steped file trough your Nexus WF

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHM View Post
    BTW, I am in packaging to:=)
    And we automate alot.

    But why dont you do your S&R direct in ArtPro, you do not need to save a pdf 1st.
    If I understand it right you have a single file in ArtPro, if so just do the S&R with that single file in ArtPro and send thet steped file trough your Nexus WF
    Well, that's what we normally do. In this case, this particular set of files will not print to the Nexus workflows...they're simply too large. When this comes up, we normally send the one up ArtPro to a link workflow...step the link and then print...no problem.

    These jobs will not print stepped...so, breaking it down to a simpler form and trying the one up...it won't print either. It will not flatten and never gets to the point of creating a postscript. I tried to eliminate printing and did a run file through the workflow with the same result...just locks on flattening.

    Our normal workflow is Illustrator native pdf to ArtPro for clean up, trapping and stepping, then print to a Nexus workflow for proof and plates...never an issue. These ArtPro native files from this supplier are a mess...tons of opacity masks, placed .psd's...and the pdfs they send are flattened and create over 1000 tiffs...those won't flatten, print, rip or anything else. I can't imagine how they ever got them to output. I'm going to call them this morning.

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    schenkadere is offline Senior Member
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    BTW CHM...I appreciate your responses and your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schenkadere View Post
    BTW CHM...I appreciate your responses and your help.
    Your welcome.

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    One thing you may want to try is optimizing your 1-up AP file (object-file-optimize). This has worked for us in the past. It seems that optimizing helps Artpro reorganize the data in a file and speeds processing. Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WI-Flexo View Post
    One thing you may want to try is optimizing your 1-up AP file (object-file-optimize). This has worked for us in the past. It seems that optimizing helps Artpro reorganize the data in a file and speeds processing. Hope that helps.
    Tried that...didn't make a difference...but thanks.

    Esko's answer is saving PDF 1.5 out of ArtPro, flattening in Acrobat 7, which I don't have and supposedly has a better flattener...then going to my normal link workflow. Well...that's no solution to me.

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    Gotta love those support responses. If you want we can take a look at the file for you. If your interested you can upload to our FTP site at web17.ixwebhosting.com user:guest1 password:JasW79wu

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    Quote Originally Posted by WI-Flexo View Post
    Gotta love those support responses. If you want we can take a look at the file for you. If your interested you can upload to our FTP site at web17.ixwebhosting.com user:guest1 password:JasW79wu
    Thanks, but the customer probably wouldn't look kindly on that...it's rather high profile stuff.

    Esko conceded that nothing could be done and suggested Total Rip which I will get a price on...in the meantime, one of our sister plants has Prinergy and I asked them to try to flatten it for me...much more robust pdf handling.

    I'll find out tomorrow. Oh boy...whoopdie do.

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    If you are looking for more info on native PDF processing/output (not going through PostScript), you will probably find more search hits on the terms "APPE" or "Adobe PDF Print Engine":

    Adobe - Adobe PDF Print Engine

    (or perhaps Esko have developed their own solution rather than using Adobe's)


    Regards,

    Stephen Marsh
    Last edited by Stephen Marsh; 04-15-2011 at 04:07 AM.


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