Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14
  1. #1
    Seagull is offline Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    36

    Default Printing Mirafoil

    Hello all, I hope some one can help out with some tips on offset printing Mirafoil with a Cyrel plate. We are doing testing with about 50% coverage on a 40" sheet and in order to get a nice solid coat down we are experiencing some doubling effects around the edges of shapes and inside reverse text which makes the text look smaller than it should be. Last test I pushed back the reverse text because the coating seemed to be filling in like I said above, is there a standard on how much push back should created. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

  2. #2
    Cornishpastythighs's Avatar
    Cornishpastythighs is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    St Kilda UK
    Posts
    300

    Default

    What Anilox are you running?

  3. #3
    jinthebay is offline Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Posts
    85

    Default

    Hey Seagull,

    Perhaps less back exposure and a longer post exposure would help. (More relief with a harder surface).

  4. #4
    Seagull is offline Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    36

    Default

    Just to let you all know I am in prepress, I am just trying to find out as much as I can, I will get back about the anilox roller and I guess I will have to talk to my cyrel plate supplier about making the plate as per Jinthebay explained, I will get back soon, Thanks.

  5. #5
    jlee is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    London, Ontario Canada
    Posts
    11

    Default

    I've done tests with Henkel, we had some interesting findings regarding anilox and plate type. Anilox is crucial and what your describing sounds like the Anilox BCM is too high resulting in a raised edge around your mirafoil. So, as Cornishpastythighs is asking, what anilox are you using in terms of BCM, engrave type and the type of Cyrel you are using?

  6. #6
    Seagull is offline Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    36

    Default

    I got some answers,
    We are using 150 anilox roller and the BCM is 11.7, Our cyrel plate is a Dupont Digital Fast .045.
    Can some one tell me how the BCM works for an anilox roller.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Detroit, Mi.
    Posts
    77

    Default

    Here ya go Seagull....
    Attached Files Attached Files

  8. #8
    jlee is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    London, Ontario Canada
    Posts
    11

    Default

    Seagull, The best combination we found for our press was a 6 BCM Hex Cut using Cyrel DPU or DPR. Dupont Cyrel has varying durometers and you may want to consider this by choosing the appropriate Digital Fast Plate Type. The information provided by Heidelberg Guy explains how an anilox works and the first part of the document focuses on Hexagonal cut cells but calls it something else in the document. We tried tri-helical as well but found it wasn't good while screening the Mirafoil. We tried 8, 10 and 12 BCM on hex and 4, 8, 12, 14 BCM on tri-helical. Henkel has documented best practices and I think a lot of the information on appropriate Anilox's etc... is in there.

  9. #9
    Seagull is offline Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    36

    Default

    Thanks for all the input everyone, I am now looking at having some testing done with a different cyrel plate and will have litho try a different anilox roller with a smaller BCM, I will get back about as soon as testing is done.

  10. #10
    inkinveins is offline Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    42

    Default

    Seagull, Ultra Ultra crucial to get rid of that "Halo" is anilox pressure ( stripe ), to the blanket ( Cyrel ) cylinder, and minimum Back pressure or squeeze. KISS squeeze and KISS stripe


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Sponsors

Esko Sponsored Content