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    Lukew is offline Senior Member
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    Default Alcohol free fountain solution & IPA limits

    Always wondered what are the reasons for having an IPA % limit with most alcohol free/reduced fountain solutions.
    Usually it will say run IPA between 0 % - 5%. Do not exceed 5% IPA

    Interested to know the reasons behind this.

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    No chemical supplies have an answer to this?

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    i remember the Belgian Saphira rep that came to my press house mentioned this also... but wouldn't explain why.

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    I remember trying to get milk from a bull and could not. I looked at him and pondered, but the bull wouldn't explain why.

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    Default IPA or that much nicer drink "India Pale Ale"

    Lukew,

    You shouldn't need to ask why there are limits on IPA addition to F.S - just think about it !!

    and I don't mean India Pale Ale.



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    Yes I need to ask why there is a set limit of max 5% IPA with fountain solutions that are designed for reduced IPA/ IPA free printing.

    There could be several reasons:
    - The fountain solution doesn't get to work effectively and as it's designed if there is too much IPA
    - The IPA free fountain solutions have a high solvent content already and running anymore then 5% IPA would attack the ink too much.

    I know that when I accidently dosed to much IPA with a fountain solution that said max 5% IPA we noticed a lot for circumferential banding/ridging on the metering roller

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    Pale Ale is OK, but living in America I seriously miss me some Victoria Bitter.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Roll View Post
    Pale Ale is OK, but living in America I seriously miss me some Victoria Bitter.......
    Victoria bitter, yuck yuck yuck, cheap nasty mega swill.....

    Little creatures bright ale or Matilda bay Fat yak

    Dan, your not going to give a reason why there is a set limit ?

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    Default Theakstons Old Peculier or Taking the Waters !

    Lukew,



    I suggest you read the PDFs I posted on F.S Concentrates, Thread: Smoothers Solids/ Page 2

    The link Smoother Solids versus Mottled Solids


    Dan, If and when you visit the UK - do try Theakstons Old Peculier


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    Alois, yep thanks I have read through the PDF's you posted.

    I've done some looking through MSDS sheets and the fountain solutions that are suited to run at 8%+ IPA don't contain many glycols.


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