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    Default How to create CIP3 in Prinergy Evo ?

    How to create CIP3 in Prinergy Evo ?

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    You must have the Printlink license for the output format that you need.
    If you have the license, then you can check the printlink operation in a output template for generate the PPF/CIP3. This option probably is more expensive but it is more integrated in the workflow.
    If you haven´t the license there are systems that they can generate CIP3 from the information of the VPS files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpNac View Post
    You must have the Printlink license for the output format that you need.
    If you have the license, then you can check the printlink operation in a output template for generate the PPF/CIP3. This option probably is more expensive but it is more integrated in the workflow.
    If you haven´t the license there are systems that they can generate CIP3 from the information of the VPS files.

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    Nacho
    Correct. Ink coverage information can be calculated from VPS too. You need a press interface to transfer this information to a console. There are companies offering the system. Visi Printflow s.r.o_Anglicky for more details.
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    InkReady, made in Canada, will output a CIP3 PPF and a printed report to set keys/fountains. Our solution for Windows also has hot folders to automate, dot gain correction and more. At only $1495, it pays for itself in no time.

    Complete evaluation version is available for FREE. (time limited license)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate View Post
    InkReady, made in Canada, will output a CIP3 PPF and a printed report to set keys/fountains. Our solution for Windows also has hot folders to automate, dot gain correction and more. At only $1495, it pays for itself in no time.

    Complete evaluation version is available for FREE. (time limited license)

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    That´s O.K. However most older presses do not have press interface ready to accept PPF format data. In order to preset ink fountains they need to invest either in a press interface from a press manufacturer or a company that produces alternative press interfaces to those from press manufacturers. Printflow is one alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate View Post
    InkReady, made in Canada, will output a CIP3 PPF and a printed report to set keys/fountains. Our solution for Windows also has hot folders to automate, dot gain correction and more. At only $1495, it pays for itself in no time.

    Complete evaluation version is available for FREE. (time limited license)

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    Dot gain is not directly related to ink volume.
    Do you have a rational for saying dot gain correction is used?

    Curious to understand your approach.

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    Correct, for older presses, InkReady prints a detailed report with a complete details to do the make ready. No needs to configure complex software, cables, cards, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate View Post
    Correct, for older presses, InkReady prints a detailed report with a complete details to do the make ready. No needs to configure complex software, cables, cards, etc.

    Yes but that´s just ink coverage information. This information (according to our experience) should be optimized for a press which ink fountains are to be preset as well as paper and ink so that it would help printers presetting as accurate as possible. A press interface allows printers almost an automatic ink preset which significantly saves makeready time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bran View Post
    Yes but that´s just ink coverage information. This information (according to our experience) should be optimized for a press which ink fountains are to be preset as well as paper and ink so that it would help printers presetting as accurate as possible. A press interface allows printers almost an automatic ink preset which significantly saves makeready time.
    Bran
    We have clash of sales managers here .. . btw, "optimization" as PrintFlow does /or should we rather write InkZone? / is little bit coarse ... weak price/performance ratio for today's challenging times. Just my opinion (but based on real experiences).

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    The test to see if a presetting system works well would be to start the press and see if it can go to the density target ranges without the operator or a closed loop control system make any ink adjustments . If the system is not able to do that, it is not capable and the people who designed the system do not understand the problem.
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