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    Quote Originally Posted by lithotechnic View Post
    We only have one cassete (was a bad decision not to get a second one) and it's the one with the centre aligning brackets.
    I think the root of our problem is where we are based. Small country, small population, very few skilled service men, and seems none of them working for Kodak.

    But all in all, I still find the price for those pieces of rubber on the tweezers ridiculous. I don't know about you guys but they charge us around €40 for each of them and according to them we should replace them as soon as we see that they've worn out. And that happens in around a months time. So to replace 4x€40 x 12 months that's €1,920 per year. And for what?
    Did you try and have the front door open with the Cheeter in and do a load from the Loading System and watch what exactly is going on? Maybe they are pressing too hard when they are picking the plates up or rubbing against the disposal rollers when the are getting rid of the paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACH View Post
    Did you try and have the front door open with the Cheeter in and do a load from the Loading System and watch what exactly is going on? Maybe they are pressing too hard when they are picking the plates up or rubbing against the disposal rollers when the are getting rid of the paper.
    The technicians used this method to adjust the x y movement.
    I have also observed the process myself. They don't seem to be pressing too hard on the plates and they are definitely not rubbing against the rollers.

    As I said at the beginning, in my opinion this system could have been designed much better.
    I am not hoping to change the mechanism for our machine, but I hope that Kodak takes this into consideration when they come up with a new model.
    I mean come on, we've had sheetfed printing machines feeding sheets of paper with incredible speed and accuracy for years now. Couldn't they have come up with a suction cup-system for paper disposal?
    It's not like we are talking about cutting edge technology here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lithotechnic View Post
    The technicians used this method to adjust the x y movement.
    I have also observed the process myself. They don't seem to be pressing too hard on the plates and they are definitely not rubbing against the rollers.

    As I said at the beginning, in my opinion this system could have been designed much better.
    I am not hoping to change the mechanism for our machine, but I hope that Kodak takes this into consideration when they come up with a new model.
    I mean come on, we've had sheetfed printing machines feeding sheets of paper with incredible speed and accuracy for years now. Couldn't they have come up with a suction cup-system for paper disposal?
    It's not like we are talking about cutting edge technology here.
    So please explain what exactly is happening. Is the paper picked up well and transported to the dissposal rollers? Does the paper come down where the rollers are and it is grabed and the paper relaesed without the tweezers touching the rollers? Have you got the tweezers that look like a T where the paper is held? Do the small tube like soft rubber rollers wear out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACH View Post
    So please explain what exactly is happening. Is the paper picked up well and transported to the dissposal rollers? Does the paper come down where the rollers are and it is grabed and the paper relaesed without the tweezers touching the rollers? Have you got the tweezers that look like a T where the paper is held? Do the small tube like soft rubber rollers wear out?
    The paper is disposed and yes the paper is released without the tweezers touching the rollers. Also we DO have the tweezers that look like a T and the problem now is that the soft rubber bands on the tweezers wear out very easily.

    I am not a service man but to my understanding the process has three aspects that we have to look out for.
    1) if the paper is being grabbed. If its not then you can adjust the tweezers to use more pressure (by moving more downwards) to grab it tighter
    2) if they grab it too tight the paper might just rip apart on the next stage when the disposal rollers try to snatch it away from the tweezers
    3) if the x y settings are bad then the rollers will be grinding the rubber on the tweezers

    Is this correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lithotechnic View Post
    The paper is disposed and yes the paper is released without the tweezers touching the rollers. Also we DO have the tweezers that look like a T and the problem now is that the soft rubber bands on the tweezers wear out very easily.

    I am not a service man but to my understanding the process has three aspects that we have to look out for.
    1) if the paper is being grabbed. If its not then you can adjust the tweezers to use more pressure (by moving more downwards) to grab it tighter
    2) if they grab it too tight the paper might just rip apart on the next stage when the disposal rollers try to snatch it away from the tweezers
    3) if the x y settings are bad then the rollers will be grinding the rubber on the tweezers

    Is this correct?
    Also, the angle between the two tweezers has to be as when it was new.

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    Spread the tweezers - they tend to get closer in time - just make sure they get together when closed and btw there is an option to use suction cups to remove paper...


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