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Climategate - the global warming truth comes out
Causing quite a stir in the news - newly published email conversations show how the (human caused) global warming proponents have variously manipulated or suppressed evidence in order to support their cause.
Senator Inhofe: "Today, I will discuss something else – scientific integrity and how to improve it. Specifically, I will discuss the systematic and documented abuse of the scientific process by an international body that claims it provides the most complete and objective scientific assessment in the world on the subject of climate change – the United Nations-sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, or IPCC."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anHuOAXIl0M
Climategate: the final nail in the coffin of ‘Anthropogenic Global Warming’? – Telegraph Blogs
EDITORIAL: Hiding evidence of global cooling - Washington Times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2153PnMzSw
best, gordo
Last edited by gordo; 11-25-2009 at 08:20 PM.
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I'm not sold yet!
I'm still a bit skeptical I'm afraid
Regards OT
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 Originally Posted by otherthoughts
I'm still a bit skeptical I'm afraid
Regards OT
And so you should be.
Here's a link to an excellent series on the topic that was published in The National Post here in Canada:
Climate change: The Deniers
Lots of food for thought there.
Time magazine's thoughtful article on the coming Ice Age from 1974:
Science: Another Ice Age? - TIME
again from Time in 1994:
The Ice Age Cometh? - TIME
I was looking at a geography text book in a second hand book shop not too long ago, which was published in the mid 70s which talked about how the Soviet Union was considering using nuclear blasts in the Arctic to release water vapor in order to stem the coming ice age. Fortunately they did not actually do that.
Who knows? *<8•))
best, gordo
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regardless of what you believe, here in Australia our leaders are "Leading the way on environmental issues" with the awesome new ETS... or extra tax system... i feel better already and so ecologically friendly it hurts.... i love doing my bit...
ok
/end rant
just pissed had a shithouse few weeks grrrr
Just get on with it. Its as simple as that.
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 Originally Posted by GazKL440
regardless of what you believe, here in Australia our leaders are "Leading the way on environmental issues" with the awesome new ETS... or extra tax system... i feel better already and so ecologically friendly it hurts.... i love doing my bit...
It seems that many governments believe that increasing taxes is the solution to all problems.
gordo
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Correct me if i am wrong, but isn't the print industry relatively carbon neutral?? I mean we use a fair amount of energy and chemicals and the production of print is fairly carbon consumptive, but the growing of trees to feed our industry would surely go a fair way towards offsetting our carbon footprint??
Just get on with it. Its as simple as that.
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 Originally Posted by GazKL440
Correct me if i am wrong, but isn't the print industry relatively carbon neutral?? I mean we use a fair amount of energy and chemicals and the production of print is fairly carbon consumptive, but the growing of trees to feed our industry would surely go a fair way towards offsetting our carbon footprint??
That, I believe, assumes that CO2 emissions are the cause of climate issues...which may not be the reality. So, it may not matter what the industry's carbon footprint is as it may be irrelevant at least as far as global warming (or cooling) is concerned.
gordon p
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Trees
My understanding is that while North America and Europe are doing a pretty good job of reforestation, there are great swaths of the equatorial rain forests that are being destroyed every day for either agriculture, industry or urban growth. Those trees aren't being replaced.
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yes and its all ethanols fault that they are cutting trees down in brazil. so we cant use clean renewable ethanol in cars anymore because california says so
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