Quark Memorial Service

[Mark]

That was annoying (we also have the 6500) but was fixed in 8.

[naplajoie2000]

Badmouth Quark! I have worked prep for 20 yrs, and Q4 was the last version that was worth a damn. As I deal with client files and do not design, I have seen every version of InDesign since its beginning. We laughed when they tried to tell us ID was going to take over Quarks place at the top. ID 1.0 was terrible, and ID 2.0 wasn't much better. Then the CS suite started and then we saw the difference. Updating images, dealing with transparency, exporting pdf files, all became much simpler, and more reliable. Every version of Quark since 5 has been a headache for prep guys. I have worked in Rampage and Esko environments, and Adobe apps just work better for our purposes. We deal with every major agency, and they have all transitioned to Adobe. So to say that the rest of the world is using Quark is just wrong. And for car brochure data, we print for many car makers, and they all use Adobe...and love it. We have 1 client that still uses Quark, and that client apologizes every year they send us files with it.

So, IMHO, you are the one that probably should step into the 21st century and get on board the train, before getting run over by the printer who starts charging you a penalty for just thinking of using Quark.

[Sev]

I have worked with Quark since version 3.32. Since we were also getting PageMaker files, Quark looked pretty good. This and using our RIP50 on our Lino 330. Then came the release of Quark 4. We did the upgrade to version 4, and found it to be a huge improvement over 3.32. However, many people on the Quark forums found version 4 to be buggy. We had no problems, and I was very vocal on how much we liked version 4. Because of that, Quark contacted me and wanted to use me and the company I work with, as a testimonial for Quark 4, on the Quark website. I was proud and thrilled, to say the least. Then Quark called me up, and wanted to do an interview for an ad for Quark 4, in Macworld Magazine. Quark had me featured in a 2 page ad. Of course when Quark 5 was released, we jumped right to the upgrade. A couple of our customers started to use InDesign, and we had to turn down those jobs. Soon we realized we were going to have to get InDesign (version 1.5). I hated using it, and many jobs were not working properly, and not output film properly. The upgrade to version 2 wasnt much better. But we were slowly getting more and more InDesign files. We still laughed when Adobe said InDesign was going to be the Quark killer. We upgraded to Quark version 6.5, and kept laughing, until Adobe came out with CS. All of a sudden, InDesign didnt look so bad. We started getting fewer and fewer Quark files. By the time CS3 was around, Quark was all but gone in our shop. We are still only up to Quark 6.5, and that is as far as we will go with Quark. With CS5, most of our customers have upgraded to CS5. We have only one customer left who uses Quark, so we ask for PDF files. Lets face it, Adobe made Quark who they were, because of PageMaker, and Adobe has made Quark who they are today, with InDesign, and the CS suite.
That's my 2.5 cents worth.

-Sev

[Al Ferrari]

"Lets face it, Adobe made Quark who they were, because of PageMaker,"

If you mean that PageMaker's performance made Quark look very good, you should be thanking Aldous. Adobe did not acquire it till much later on.

Al

[Sev]

"Lets face it, Adobe made Quark who they were, because of PageMaker,"

If you mean that PageMaker's performance made Quark look very good, you should be thanking Aldous. Adobe did not acquire it till much later on.

Al

Al, you are correct with that. We never used Aldus PageMaker, I believe we started with Adobe PageMaker 6.0, if I recall. I looked at our software collection today, and could not come up with any older versions of PageMaker, and my memory is not as good as it used be.

-Sev

[JoeatData]

Quark--R.I.P.

How long has Quark 9 been on the market? We're at version 8.51. Haven't had the need to upgrade.

[MacTwidget]

How long has Quark 9 been on the market? We're at version 8.51. Haven't had the need to upgrade.

I always try to have at least one copy of the latest and greatest. Because if I don't, Murphy's Law will kick in and a customer will send in a file that I do not have the software for!

I bought a copy of Quack 9 as soon as it was shipping in April 2011. I have had exactly ONE file from a customer in Quack 9.

[Tpyo]

It seems to me a rather obvious issue is being ignored here, so far. Indesign, being a part of Creative Suite, works so well with the other Adobe products within CS. Personally, I tend to treat 'AcroIllyIndy' as one program. I haven't really used Quark since vers. 7. Does it play well with Acrobat and Illustrator? And is it worth the cost to buy each separately?

[GaragePunk]

What do you mean, there is Excel, Word and Punisher to contend with.

[Slammer]

Hey guys I have used Quark since it was still called Ventura publisher.