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Old 11-14-2008, 02:37 PM
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Yeah, I don't use fontbook at all myself, but it's a tool that I use on occasion to see if there are any conflicts with my system fonts.
Suitcase can sometimes not give the correct info.
I don't think it was really written for Quark, we had so many problems with fonts either not loading correctly or making them corrupt, so we just quit using it .
FontExplorer X is just way better and it's free. No I don't work for Linotype, but a lot of other prepress folks will swear by this font utility.
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Old 11-14-2008, 03:06 PM
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Pam,

I did mean to question your knowledge. Believe me I have often been offended when others had brought up points I already knew. But, I have also learned that I tend to forget things. This is why this forum is such a useful tool in the printing/graphics industry; it allows us to pool knowledge from all over the world--including the stuff we forget and what is new.

We also have been using Font Explorer with great success in both Quark and Indesign.

Frankly, we use Indesign in-house and only have Quark to support our few clients that are still using it

I hope the Font Explorer works out for you.
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Jaimez,

No offense taken was just letting you know that I did know about the font attribution. You have no idea what my level of knowledge is but thought it might help to know that I am a bit of an old-timer having started with PageMaker 1.0 UGH!

I loved Quark but have used all programs because of my job and have a love/hate relationship with all desktop programs but that is the challenge of the job which I also love. I am also a long-time Suitcase user. Too bad everyone wouldn't get together and put all the programs into one with the best of all! Dream on! Where's the challenge in that!

Have spotted something with Font Explorer that listed fonts in the Suitcase Vault. Have now deleted them and rebuilt some of my sets. Just haven't tested it yet. But this may be the culprit.

I like this forum as you all have made me think outside the box which is sometimes hard to do when you work in a small vacuum.

Will let you know what I find out.
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Old 11-14-2008, 07:01 PM
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Pam,

I'm impressed, I started with PageMaker 4.0, so I'm not as experienced as you. Quark is a great program, but I've found that Indesign works better for us. And yes, I also have a love/hate relationship with DTP. Like you I love what I do as well, although as an owner I probably do not spend the amount of time in the DTP part of the business as I used to many moons ago.

It's a pleasure communicating with you through this very helpful forum.
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As far as I remember, there was a problem with Quark XPress 6 where Quark won't embed oblique fonts, but use the normal font and made it artificially italic. Which is technically the same as using an oblique font as I understood it. (see Oblique type - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

There was a startup postscript for Distiller that worked around that shortcoming ... it was made by Robert Zacherl from impressed.de.

I don't know whether Quark 7 or 8 have this same problem as 6.
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Guess I could try Font Explorer. Just that I know I was using Suitcase fine up until a few months ago and did not think the problem was the font since I can export pdfs okay.
I wonder if Distiller's "Font Locations" might have got screwed up?

In Distiller go to "Settings" > "Font Locations" and Remove everything. Quit Distiller and then re-launch it. It will then do a scan of your system to find the correct Locations.
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:16 AM
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Distiller will not allow me to remove all the fonts, particularly the Suitcase fonts. I have never heard of the startup postscript for Distiller that Toronor refers to. I was also never aware of this problem in the past but what you are saying about it making an artificial italic is how Distiller is acting. Just not sure why this started suddenly. Can anyone else replicate the problem if they have the same programs?

Think I will perhaps take Screen's advise to not worry about it and be safe and use InDesign for future projects which will just give me more experience. Or I could call Quark. But as I said earlier, this has not caused any problems it just seems curiously wrong.

Thanks everyone for all the insight and help.
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As far as I remember, there was a problem with Quark XPress 6 where Quark won't embed oblique fonts, but use the normal font and made it artificially italic. Which is technically the same as using an oblique font as I understood it. (see Oblique type - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

There was a startup postscript for Distiller that worked around that shortcoming ... it was made by Robert Zacherl from impressed.de.

I don't know whether Quark 7 or 8 have this same problem as 6.
I hated using Quark 6 for this exact reason. I would always back-save to 5 and go over to the legacy OS9 G4 where I knew things worked.

With the introduction of Q7, I decided to give it a go again, and haven't looked back. I still have Q6.5 loaded on the MacPro (just in case I need to back-save to 5 again ) but for the most part, I export PDF/X-1A from Quark 7.3, and have had no issues .... EVEN WITH QUARK'S TRANSPARENCIES!

But for any in-house work, InDesign is my weapon of choice.

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Old 11-18-2008, 03:13 PM
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Hi. I am an old-timer too. Started with Illustrator 1 and Page Maker 3.0. I just wanted to point to a little article I wrote on how to set up Linotype FontExplorer X, based on my experience.

Hope this problem will be solved and I am excited to hear how the story ends.

Fonts : Real World Font Management with Linotype FontExplorer X : font.is

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Old 11-18-2008, 03:21 PM
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Thanks. I have turned this over to Quark but don't have a lot of faith they will fix the problem. Have not been able to do further testing as work beckons, however until then, I will probably turn to InDesign or avoid Italic sans serif fonts.

I have printed the article and will take it home with me to peruse.
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