16-up Imposition

[Al Ferrari]

For any Preps (or other imposition software) template you need to know the sheet size. The particular press to be used should only affect the set back. But the most important thing you need to know to determine the template page numbering is how the *bindery* will be folding the sheet (not how you can fold a dummy sheet).

You can't proceed without that. As shown in Gordon's excellent diagrams there are two ways to make the last fold, but not shown is that there are other ways to make the other folds as well.

Of course there are other details needed such as gutters, etc.

Al

[mrgraphics]

Gordo you are the man.... Some people had already thought of making good money after Josh GBP rather then helping him out. Thanks we need people like you in this world.

[Al Ferrari]

mrgraphics,

If by "Some people had already thought of making good money..." you are referring to my post, please read the follow up posts along that branch of the thread.

Thank you,

Al

[toronar]

Originally Posted by Sev

You should also check with the bindery person involved since they would have to do the folding and cutting and could have a preference as to how to lay out the imposition.

-Sev

This is very important. There are a lot of ways to produce a 32-up, and depending on sheet size, weight, bind-type, your bindery's equipment, etc. they will use different ones.

[twitch5253]

Many more questions to be asked regarding a 32 page layout. Is this for a saddle stitched or Perfect bound book? Printed sheetfed or on a web? What is the finished page size?

Do you have an imposition manual for the folder that it is going to be run through? You may be folding the sheet twice in the first plates and then going to the right angle for the second two folds.

How much top, face and bottom trim will be needed?

Twitch

[rich apollo]

Get the layouts from the folks who'll be printing/folding these.

[splenguin]

Originally Posted by rich apollo

Get the layouts from the folks who'll be printing/folding these.

Read the last three posts carefully - there are far too many variables for a generic solution to even exist.

[jbbbarr]

My first question would be what is the stock? If they cannot answer this I would just ignore the request, because w/o this extremely critical information you cannot even attempt a dummy. Anything other than very lightweight stock will not work, or work with a very poor outcome. You really need more info or you will be setting yourself up for imminent disaster.

If and when you do get the stock specs. you should ALWAYS try to fold it manually, then go and ask the bindery if this is possible with their equipment!

[WiseGuy]

Yeah... bottom line, without talking to the printer who is printing the job and getting the specs from them, there is no way you can pre-set-up the job for the correct imposition. There are the press variables such as the gripper set-back and such. Marks they may want like special color bars or slug lines. All the numbering would be based on the type of binding and the actual folding sequence of their equipment.

You're best off just letting them do the imposition. I would guess they have their own templates set up and it will take them no time.

Good luck!
Michael

[cjwworld]

Originally Posted by jbbbarr

My first question would be what is the stock? If they cannot answer this I would just ignore the request, because w/o this extremely critical information you cannot even attempt a dummy. Anything other than very lightweight stock will not work, or work with a very poor outcome. You really need more info or you will be setting yourself up for imminent disaster.

If and when you do get the stock specs. you should ALWAYS try to fold it manually, then go and ask the bindery if this is possible with their equipment!

Actually stock has nothing to do with a dummy.. all a dummy does is give you the page placement, whether its tissue paper, book paper, blue paper, etc.

I agree that the bindery has the correct info