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    Default Paper for GMG ColorProof

    Hi everyone.

    What paper I can use with GMG ColorProof besides GMG Paper (Semmimate)?
    Maybe Epson?
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    Alien -

    GMG 250 is excellent paper. However, it is also very expensive. ($479 for a 42" x 98' roll)
    We operate a state of the art paper converting facility in the US and have a brand of paper called Validation 250 Satin. We have many GMG customers who use our paper. (We were a GMG distributor for 3 years.)

    It is part of a GRACoL certified system, is extremely consistent and we already have GMG Calsets (MX3/4) done for Epson printers. 42" x 98' rolls are $249(list). (Epson is around $239)

    Our paper is the highest quality paper available for proofing and is sold by select dealers in North America. We can send you sample rolls to test and email you the MX3/4s. All you need to do is iterate.

    FineEye | Paper & Media

    Let us know if you need any more info.
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    Ian

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    That's great, Ian... but Alien - from Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien View Post
    Hi everyone.

    What paper I can use with GMG ColorProof besides GMG Paper (Semmimate)?
    Maybe Epson?
    You can use any paper you want....but you'll likely need to create your own custom calibration sets for non-GMG media. The GMG media is VERY GOOD but pricey....and coming up with your own calibration sets for a 3rd party paper is not trivial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Mackenzie View Post
    Alien -

    GMG 250 is excellent paper. However, it is also very expensive. ($479 for a 42" x 98' roll)
    We operate a state of the art paper converting facility in the US and have a brand of paper called Validation 250 Satin. We have many GMG customers who use our paper. (We were a GMG distributor for 3 years.)
    Yes, it is excellent, I used Semmimate and Gloss paper (42'' x 30 m roll)
    But now we have some problem with suppler, some I need reserve variant.
    Problem not even in price, in term of delivery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien View Post
    Yes, it is excellent, I used Semmimate and Gloss paper (42'' x 30 m roll)
    But now we have some problem with suppler, some I need reserve variant.
    Problem not even in price, in term of delivery
    Yes, Customs clearance of parcels causes huge delays in delivery.
    Common problem of Russian (and Ukrainian) Customs bureaucracy and even worse - corruption makes UPS or DHL delivery worthless.
    No consumptions - business stops, Customers gone...
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    Alien -

    A very large percentage of the global inkjet paper production comes from Germany.
    Contact Sihl and Felix Schoeller. They make the paper that GMG and CGS puts their names on. Please also keep in mind that Epson does not make paper. They put their name on someone else's paper (Private Label) just like GMG.

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    Default Paper for GMG Colorproof

    Quote Originally Posted by TerryWyse View Post
    You can use any paper you want....but you'll likely need to create your own custom calibration sets for non-GMG media. The GMG media is VERY GOOD but pricey....and coming up with your own calibration sets for a 3rd party paper is not trivial.

    Terry
    RIP manufacturers who also sell paper have no incentive to make it easy to create new data sets, and it's no accident that these products are tricky to configure. That being said, you're right: Alien will likely need some professional intervention if he's to switch to another paper. Alien: You might contact Terry directly for a remote recalibration via Webex.

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    Default Data sets

    I've tried a few different papers and haven't needed to create any data sets. Normally a recalibration
    brings the Delta E into tolerance. They pass ProofControl for 39L etc..
    It's not a GMG proof it's a contract proof to a given standard... Paper shouldn't really matter as long as it's certified..

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    Default paper

    Try EFI Fogra certified paper..


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