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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Donegan View Post
    If you wanted to work on text and tint (vector) then you would use MaxColor within MaxPro. That way you could work on all elements in one file. So we would RIP the Illustrator file into LW and CT at say 2400 Res for LW and 300 for CT. You can actually Raster LW up to 5800 Res. The Colour Library allows for up to 64,000 colour palettes with each individual palette having a mix of up to 64 separations (OK, extreme and you would never use that many seps or palettes but there's the spec).
    What if the file is only LW (vector) spot colors? Can the user import/edit a tint recipe library (e.g. PANTONE > CMYK++) within MaxPro? (i.e. to avoid rasterizing LW in MaxColor).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradleyp View Post
    What if the file is only LW (vector) spot colors? Can the user import/edit a tint recipe library (e.g. PANTONE > CMYK++) within MaxPro? (i.e. to avoid rasterizing LW in MaxColor).

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    MaxPro uses it's .mp file format irrespective of whether a file has LW, CT or a combination of both.

    If you mean can you open a LW which is multiple Spot Colour, generate colour palettes made up of CMYK + + and apply these to replace the Spot colours then yes.

    While you are at it, you could trap the file as well in a WYSIWYG environment.

    Once complete, output is PDF, .PS, Gravure Tiff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradleyp View Post
    What if the file is only LW (vector) spot colors?

    Brad.

    Brad, it sounds like MaxPro uses the old Scitex raster model (I am not saying that it is exactly the same, just a similar concept, perhaps taking better advantage of today's processing power). This would very much be a "late binding" workflow.

    A LW file is a very high resolution raster (perhaps "index" colour and linked to a LUT), and a CT file is a lower resolution raster. There is NO vector. The LW/CT model predates PostScript and PDF vectors. Back in the days of Scitex systems ruling the roost, one would RIP .ps data into the Scitex LW/CT and related formats using Scitex RIP software on the Mac known as VIP (Visual Interpreter for PostScript), or a "low end" Scitex workstation such as the "Star?" would have .ps conversion options. Those days are mostly a blur in my memory now!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Marsh View Post
    A LW file is a very high resolution raster (perhaps "index" colour and linked to a LUT), and a CT file is a lower resolution raster. There is NO vector. The LW/CT model predates PostScript and PDF vectors.
    OK, thanks for explaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Donegan View Post
    MaxPro uses it's .mp file format irrespective of whether a file has LW, CT or a combination of both.
    If you mean can you open a LW which is multiple Spot Colour, generate colour palettes made up of CMYK ++ and apply these to replace the Spot colours then yes.
    Just to clarify, does MaxPro automatically apply the PANTONE > CMYK++ conversion on import (subject to the multi-color pallet loaded), or must the operator manually map each PANTONE color to the respective CMYK++ values?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradleyp View Post
    Just to clarify, does MaxPro automatically apply the PANTONE > CMYK++ conversion on import (subject to the multi-color pallet loaded), or must the operator manually map each PANTONE color to the respective CMYK++ values?

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    No - the process would be - Open file - Select colour Filter - Process.

    The colour filter would contain the CMYK+, CMYK ++, CMY++ etc... mixture - so you could have a library of these predefined colour mixtures.

    You could also choose to apply the filter only to specific separations within the document.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Donegan View Post
    No - the process would be - Open file - Select colour Filter - Process.The colour filter would contain the CMYK+, CMYK ++, CMY++ etc... mixture - so you could have a library of these predefined colour mixtures. You could also choose to apply the filter only to specific separations within the document.
    OK, so 'Select colour Filter - Process' is fully automatic then. Do you have some sort of demo or Youtube clip to see this in action? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradleyp View Post
    OK, so 'Select colour Filter - Process' is fully automatic then. Do you have some sort of demo or Youtube clip to see this in action? Thanks.

    Brad.
    Not at present Brad - when we do, it will go up on Graphic Republik - YouTube - I will keep you posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Donegan View Post
    Not at present Brad - when we do, it will go up on Graphic Republik - YouTube - I will keep you posted.
    Thanks. BTW, I visited your website. Do you have a distributor and/or customers in the US? How do you rate your multi-color system against Kodak & Esko?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradleyp View Post
    Thanks. BTW, I visited your website. Do you have a distributor and/or customers in the US? How do you rate your multi-color system against Kodak & Esko?

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    Not for MaxPro/MaxColor...

    For the 2nd question, I don't know how they work from a colour conversion point of view.

    What I can say is that MaxPro and MaxColor allow you to do far more than colour conversion.

    The post conversion editing tools are very good.

    They allow users to carry out additional adjustments such as selective editing of selected combination ink overlaps.

    As good as any colour conversion system may be, having the facility to edit the converted job, both text and tone in a single application is a plus.

    Being able to see on screen how those spot colour channels overlap is also definitely a good thing - no more working blind.


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