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    rande is offline Senior Member
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    Why would a clients proof show a different font then what I'm seeing in Acrobat pro? They show a reg font and mine is condensed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rande View Post
    Why would a clients proof show a different font then what I'm seeing in Acrobat pro? They show a reg font and mine is condensed?
    they didn't embed fonts. cmd+d to show fonts, see the list, embedded, not embedded?
    see if you can activate the font that's not embedded.

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    OR the font they are using has licensing restrictions and will not allow it to embed. There is no system in Acrobat to warn you when you are view a file and it has substituted fonts for display. Remember when this all started, this was one of those big advantages of a PDF, then end user didn't have to have the fonts because the PDF would have embedded replacement fonts (adobe sans, adobe serif) to use if needed.
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    here's what i'd do..
    take that pdf from the client and open and flatten and resave it in photoshop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visualaid View Post
    here's what i'd do..
    take that pdf from the client and open and flatten and resave it in photoshop.
    Sure, if you like fuzzy rasterized type instead of nice, crisp vectors. Besides, if the fonts aren't embedded in the PDF then it still won't look right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCurry View Post
    Sure, if you like fuzzy rasterized type instead of nice, crisp vectors. Besides, if the fonts aren't embedded in the PDF then it still won't look right.
    hmm not sure what youre doing to get fuzzy type; works for me.

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    It's not anything I'm "doing" - it's the nature of the beast when taking vector art, which is resolution-independent, and rasterizing which makes it resolution-dependent. The fuzziness comes from anti-aliasing.

    You can mitigate it a bit by rasterizing at a higher DPI, and most people would probably never notice, but if you look at your ripped files you'll see the difference quite clearly.

    Forcing PDFs to open in Photoshop is a hack move, and IMHO is only to be done as an absolute last resort. Again, though, if the fonts aren't embedded in the PDF in the first place it still won't look right.
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    I've had different files over the days and looking at them side by side, they both have the same fonts universLTStd_BldCn, cn, light.
    One looks reg and the other looks like it should; condensed; and we got a paser of the newest change and its reg but the file is condensed. Its wrapping differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visualaid View Post
    lol
    i'm telling you, don't open that client's file in acrobat. open it with photoshop or illustrator or preview and resave as something else, then you have no font problems.
    The sheer ignorance of this statement is staggering.
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    In the "Page Display" preference of Acrobat
    there is a checkbox for "Use Local Fonts".
    Turn that off and Acrobat forces itself to use the embedded fonts only.
    If something is not embedded - you may then get the warning that Acrobat cannot extract that font.
    If you see what font is not embedded by the "Cmd+D"
    your could then load that font into your Suitcase or Library or
    better yet InDesigns font folder
    then place the PDF into InDesign and export a new PDF
    which will then pick up the font and embed it.
    (If it does not have restrictions)

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