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    This topic thread was spawned by an earlier discussion:

    EskoArtworks, Equinox?

    On the density values of Kodak Flexcel NX plates with DigiCap NX Screening in the solid areas:

    Kodak state: "with Flexcel NX Plates with DigiCap NX Screening applied. Users are reporting average density increases of 0.4 in cyan, magenta, and black, and 0.2 in yellow".

    A different document with slightly more conservative values states:

    Cyan - Standard Digital LAMs: 1.30 / Kodak Flexcel NX: 1.50
    Magenta - Standard Digital LAMs: 1.25 / Kodak Flexcel NX: 1.45
    Yellow - Standard Digital LAMs: 1.0 / Kodak Flexcel NX: 1.20
    Black - Standard Digital LAMs: 1.40 / Kodak Flexcel NX: 1.70

    http://graphics.kodak.com/AU/en/prod...equestid=34257

    (Disclaimer: I work for the Australian distributor of the Kodak Flexcel NX solution)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Marsh View Post

    This topic thread was spawned by an earlier discussion:

    EskoArtworks, Equinox?
    Actually that was coincidental.

    I was on the Spotless development team and was its marketing manager so I was interested in the webinar and how Kodak would pitch a 4 color process for flexo. The gamut claims didn't sound realistic. They were more like those of a 6 color process than a 4 color one. You can increase gamut with flexo by increasing density (to a certain point) and digicapping, however I don't think that you can do so enough to make the flexo presswork running 150 lpi achieve a gamut almost as great as 6 color offset with 10 micron FM screening.

    There's probably just an information disconnect between engineering and sales/marketing. I've reached out to the two presenters and hopefully they'll clear up the issue.

    Since you work for the Australian distributor of the Kodak Flexcel NX solution, have you seen their webinar? Does the information presented align with the training that you've had?

    best, gordo

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    Quote Originally Posted by gordo View Post
    Actually that was coincidental.
    Thanks Gordo, so much for my deductive skills!


    Since you work for the Australian distributor of the Kodak Flexcel NX solution, have you seen their webinar? Does the information presented align with the training that you've had?

    best, gordo


    I'll get back to you when I am officially back at work, I am still on my break.


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    Gordo, do they provide an ICC profile of the color space they're laying claim to? If you can provide me with an ICC profile, I can't give you 72-80%, but I CAN give an interesting visual comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rich apollo View Post
    Gordo, do they provide an ICC profile of the color space they're laying claim to? If you can provide me with an ICC profile, I can't give you 72-80%, but I CAN give an interesting visual comparison.
    I've asked them for two profiles - conventional flexo and flexcel. Haven't heard back yet.

    best, gordo


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