Ricoh's Ikon acquisition

[gcspec]

EA toner is not pulverized nor is the 700 "plastic". Either way, on our side of the aisle, we can offer our customers not only 1 production solution, but over 6 to assure the proper fit with your business. Curious how many KM people are on this site aggressively defending their products...

[KMGI Sales]

gcspec - I think I will let our devices speak for themselves. And recently they have been doing alot of speaking at alot of your accounts.....

[GregNac19]

gcspec - I think I will let our devices speak for themselves. And recently they have been doing alot of speaking at alot of your accounts.....

I will repeat a past entry that still applies to this thread.
"Same stuffing beating here! By the way my chest hurts every night because of the killer product (DC700s) sold in my territory. I have never seen and I don't even think there is a KM 6501 or 6500 in my entire terrritory!
But hey, that doesn't mean the KM6501 doesn't exist. There us just a better chance of seeing a Leprechauns, a balanaced budget, Al Gore with a fun personality, ABC-NBC-CBS with non-biased coverage, Cubs winning the World Series, Disney World saying "come stay with us for free", Michael Vick being spokesman for PETA, and Barkack Obama realizing Global Warming has been over for 2 years and we as humans having no effect the climate change.
Yeah that'll be the dayhaha that I die!"

[gcspec]

Yep, they are speaking loud and clear with the smallest of the quick print shops when a used or repo'd unit is presented where the price is like, $20,000 less than my price. So let's be honest here KM sales guy, where I was in the mix, I lost about a third of the face offs against KM - always against Ikon by the way. (never KM direct) The only strategy used was to sell extremely cheap, like $15,000 or used/repo machines. 1 of those shops have already gone bankrupt, another is for sale and one of them is starting to have trouble getting the toner for the CPP model. Where the Xerox 700 went up against KM directly and a decision was made on quality first, price second, we won every single time. So the speaking I'm hearing is, cheap, cheap, cheap! Funny, though, since Ricoh bought Ikon, haven't even heard the name "Konica" in the any of the proposals since January 1st. (one of my customers needs a piece of tape to hold his 2 year old Konica CPP550 running - customers really like how that looks - at least it's clear tape, not as visible)

[Jtamoe46]

These are some good posts. Very entertaining. I have seen the Konica machine run and it is a good competitor with the 700. I could understand it coming down to a coin toss with some customers. That being said I have had a lot of success against the Konica Machine.....but they were dog fights.

I believe it comes down to the better sales person, who has a better support team (service, resources, knowledge) and experience in the market place.

The Konica Minolta reps are good in my area, but I have a larger client base that shows upside...5000's, 7000's and 8000's. Couple of Igens as well, so I have a good story and history to work with. But even though I am biased towards Xerox...it is hard to knock the machine too much...unless of course the customer wants to run over 30 k per month....then it tends to have challenges in my experience

[Russ Gamble]

I would buy from the manufacturer if possible. They can't be bought out or cut off.
Russ

[jrsc]

These are some good posts. Very entertaining. I have seen the Konica machine run and it is a good competitor with the 700. I could understand it coming down to a coin toss with some customers. That being said I have had a lot of success against the Konica Machine.....but they were dog fights.

That's funny. I was considering flipping a coin between the two today since I can't come up with any good reason to choose one over the other.

[GregNac19]

That's funny. I was considering flipping a coin between the two today since I can't come up with any good reason to choose one over the other.

How about supporting USA and buying Xerox.

[LANgrafix-com]

Missy,

Whichever unit you decide, any of the Konica Minolta C5500/6500/6501 or any of the clone IKON CPP650/CPP550/CPP660 color copier units, we can sell you the very best controller built for this copier for peanuts – the IC-305 or the IKON PRO-80 for peanuts. The units are brand new in box, fully loaded and complete, the latest v2.0 build and include our unmatched 3 year warranty. We have a variety of 14 of these units new in box and they will not last. Dealers, we will smash even the non-for-profit pricing the Konica Minolta Corp gives you. All these units are leftovers we were shipped straight from EFI. Make us offers while this extremely hot moving units last.

Again, this is very coveted Fiery IC-305 or the IKON Fiery PRO-80.

847-760-9282 or e-mail us at customercare (at) langrafix.com

[GregNac19]

Missy,

Whichever unit you decide, any of the Konica Minolta C5500/6500/6501 or any of the clone IKON CPP650/CPP550/CPP660 color copier units, we can sell you the very best controller built for this copier for peanuts – the IC-305 or the IKON PRO-80 for peanuts. The units are brand new in box, fully loaded and complete, the latest v2.0 build and include our unmatched 3 year warranty. We have a variety of 14 of these units new in box and they will not last. Dealers, we will smash even the non-for-profit pricing the Konica Minolta Corp gives you. All these units are leftovers we were shipped straight from EFI. Make us offers while this extremely hot moving units last.

Again, this is very coveted Fiery IC-305 or the IKON Fiery PRO-80.

847-760-9282 or e-mail us at customercare (at) langrafix.com

I need a couple for my living room. Should I pick the Fiery or the IKON? Do they come in plaid?