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    I am D Ink Man.

    And the sad truth is the selling price of an offset sheet fed process series is lower and cheaper than what it was 20 years ago. Enormous faults here, by mostly the ink vendors. But we can also credit many of the printers that accept these cheap prices at huge sacrifice. By now, everyone should know the costly sacrifice. D

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Ink Man View Post
    I am D Ink Man.

    And the sad truth is the selling price of an offset sheet fed process series is lower and cheaper than what it was 20 years ago. Enormous faults here, by mostly the ink vendors. But we can also credit many of the printers that accept these cheap prices at huge sacrifice. By now, everyone should know the costly sacrifice. D
    Before I reply could you please explain what is "an offset sheet fed process series"
    Is this a new line screen!

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    They are four printing inks, that make up a group called a process series. Black, cyan, magenta and yellow. I assume you know what inks are hansman. If not, I can go into simple thesis. D

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    This is future of the printing industry take a look at these two links:

    Nanography - Landa

    The Landa Nanographic Printing Process (Official Video) - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Peterson View Post
    This is future of the printing industry take a look at these two links:

    Nanography - Landa

    The Landa Nanographic Printing Process (Official Video) - YouTube
    Nice cartoons. The future of printing or I should say selling print technology is animated cartoons shown on digital technologies.

    Landa has potential but it can't print a sellable copy yet. It is not a printing process yet.

    Will it be? Hopefully it will when and if they get all the problems worked out. I am curious to find out but I would not bet on it. Too many unknowns still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansman View Post
    Before I reply could you please explain what is "an offset sheet fed process series"
    Is this a new line screen!
    ok so this has what to do with the topic "The Future of the Printing Industry"
    Or the fact that it costs less than 20 years ago!!!!!!!What does that even remotely have to do with this topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Peterson View Post
    This is future of the printing industry take a look at these two links:

    Nanography - Landa

    The Landa Nanographic Printing Process (Official Video) - YouTube
    The fact remains who are you planning on selling it to?
    The market is dwindling to the absolute lowest level in my 30 years. So unless someone breaks the internet it will continue to fall.

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    Let me minimize my reply to avoid the delay of less or more ink on paper.

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    It's basically a liquid toner that evaporates the liquid and you're left with a toner film. Remember toner is just wax, carbon, and pigment. The nano concept just doesn't have the charge process to make the toner "jump" from some surface to the paper. Toner could in theory be mostly pre-melted onto a heated belt, or what we call a fuser and then transferred again to a substrate.

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    Here's what I'm surprised that no one has mentioned yet. Let's assume the nano technology concept works well and takes off.

    Initially the price of the machines is going to be outrageous. First introductions always are.

    Second, there will only be one supplier for everything for quite some time in relations to this technology.

    Third, and this one is the biggest. All other technologies will inevitably be either obsolete (which is really unlikely); more likely that all other technologies will have a massive price reduction due to huge supply, competitive forces, etc.,

    What does that mean? It means that more and more people will be able to cut out the commercial printer by buying up surplus amounts of equipment and supplies from other technologies. These people could be print buyers, print brokers, or other individuals that now find the cost of entering the print business even less costly.

    If nano is a success, ultimately it will drive down the cost of print even further and not just at the printers' level but at the retail level. For this not to happen, nano would have to bring along with it serious cost reductions and efficiencies that would at least match the overall price reduction in the market due to the other forces as explained above.


    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Nikkanen View Post
    Nice cartoons. The future of printing or I should say selling print technology is animated cartoons shown on digital technologies.

    Landa has potential but it can't print a sellable copy yet. It is not a printing process yet.

    Will it be? Hopefully it will when and if they get all the problems worked out. I am curious to find out but I would not bet on it. Too many unknowns still.

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    This question haunts every printer out there today. As the above poster mentioned...It sure isn't the Good ol' days.
    With the Advent of the internet, Gigantors like Vista-Print are dominating. Why are people going to pay us for something when they can get it for free? The answer undoubtedely is THEY'RE NOT. We have to go after a different type of clientele. People who wan't Quality and Service. We have to think outside of the "box" and find a Niche. Like many industries today, Printing isn't dieing it's evolving. Check out our blog post on the topic Is The Printing Industry Dead?
    Last edited by JTFLO; 07-24-2012 at 07:26 AM. Reason: Added Link to Blog


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