Hostmann-Steiberg Inks

[meddington]

I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with Hostmann-Steinberg inks and could comment on their experiences, particularly the Rapida series for sheetfed?

[jlind]

Michael:
I know someone who's using the Reflecta series with rave reviews, good price, bright colors, good tone repro. They'll have to be ISO2846. I'm going to look deeper into this product myself.
John Lind
Cranberry Township, PA
724-776-4718

[centralnj]

We have just switched to Non Fade Hostman Inks for Poster production for our S/F presses. 40" and 77". We run much less water than Pertech Inks thus we have been getting better dry back results (less dryback). Better tack, trap numbers. We sometimes (with Pertech) had problems with back trapping into the latter run inks in the sequence. Not sure which series we are using though.

Been using Hostman for about 4 months now. We like them.

[Paultheprinter]

Hi there,

i believe that the H&s inks are the best on the market, in the UK i was told by a ink rep that there are two streams of H&S ink as they produce a lower quality under the same name in the far east and the top notch in produced in europe somewhere.Dont know how true it is

Paul

[Morning Flight]

Hi Paul,

Just out of curiosity, do you use the PMS or HKS color system? When we introduced our Morning Flight Print Estimating Software a couple of years ago, we included the HKS system. So far, out of nearly 4,000 installations, we've had zero comments on HKS, lots on PMS. Pantone still seems to be the big gorilla.

Hal

[Paultheprinter]

Hi hal,

excuse my ignorance, but i dont understand your question. Could you please repost and i will try to answer any questions you have. Another point to note is that Heidelberg in the UK used Hostman steinberg ink when they were demonstrating there CD74. So it must be good.

Paul

[meddington]

Thanks for all the responses.

The reason for my post is that we recently did a test run with Hostmann Rapida inks on our Heidelberg SM 102. The press operator had a very hard time stabilizing the ink. Adjusting for high densities resulted in the inks dropping too low, and vice versa, with the operator overshooting his targets. He also indicated that the black seemed weakly pigmented and he had to lay down the ink very thick to achieve the desired density. A co-worker said hey he had heard/read somewhere that these inks require chilled rollers, though I can find no indication of this anywhere.

[Golfprint]

Michael-

We have tried both the Perfecta and the Rapida series from H-S on a Komori 628 with chillers; My Pressman thought the Rapida setup a little quicker for ease backing up short run work, but the bindery did not care for the ink because of the following:
1) Cutter - heavy coverage on both sides on coated stock. the edges stuck.
2) Folding- handling the stock - ink came off on hands.
3) Stitch/Trim- required frequent cleaning of belts/drums from ink.

[jlind]

Scott:
Turn the question around, since you bring up some very good points: Which ink did the bindery LIKE that didn't have those problems? I'll buy some....
John Lind
Cranberry Township, PA
724-776-4718

[Morning Flight]

Hi Paul,

You may have already answered my question. I was trying to find out how popular the proprietary HKS system is outside of Germany. Here is a full description:

http://www.hubergroup.info/lang/en/tipdf/3106E.PDF

If I'm not mistaken, Hostmann-Steinberg have developed this system and own the rights to it.

Hal