Ryobi or Hamada

[printer_srilanka]

I am considering buying used 2 color press for 4 colour process work and have two options. One is Hamada C-248SF and other Ryobi 3302. Ryobi has crestline. Both presses are of almost same age and usage. Could anyone suggest which offers better 4 color?

[RGPW17100]

Stay with the Ryobi there are a lot more of them out there and the Hamada is a piece of crap. They tried to copy the GTO and failed miserably at it. It has trouble feeding any paper curl up and the curl up wont register very well. It does a terrible job on solids as well. Also you have to pack the plates as well unless you run a perma pac. Ryobl wont allow you color bars doing two up or 11x17 which is a bummer. Hamada will print a 14 x 20 sheet and do a terrible job at it. Maybe try and find a Ryobi 512

[BillJ]

Hamada closed most of their US operations about 2 years ago.

[printerdw]

Right now Ryobi is dealing big time we just bought a Ryobi 524gx brand new for $280,000 fully loaded you cant add anything else to this press. Right now we have a Hamada A252 14X20 we run all of our 4 color on and it runs great if you can find a used get it.

BTW

The Hamada A252 is a Hashimoto with Hamada covers on it Hamada did not make this press.

[Sev]

Years ago we bought a new Hamada to replace the aging GTO. The Hamada was nothing but trouble, so we got rid of it and got two Ryobi's. The Ryobi was a good choice, but we wanted something that would run envelopes better. We ended up with a Heidi QuickMaster.

-Sev

[Happyprinter]

In my humble opinion after owning both brands of presses, there is no comparison on quality and service. Buy RYOBI. As stated earlier, they are still in business and make a quality press.

[printerdw]

You can still buy a new Hamada from its new company
Welcome to Weihai Hamada Printing Press Co.,Ltd

[itsaprintshop]

I went through this same exact decision about 2 years ago, I have researched both machines thoroughly. The Hamada was engineered after the Ryobi. Hamada has fixed all the flaws of Ryobi and thereby built a far superior press. The Ryobi has stuck with the same frame and all the crap they have been doing since day 1, and it is only because of being the first 2 color portrait on the market are they able to keep up the market share. If you are able to get a Hamada at the same price, go with the Hamada IMHO. The features on the Hamada work, such as blanket cleaners, etc., whereas the features on the Ryobi are a complete waste of money. Study the roller train of both machines and ask why they are different, compare the ink train to 40'' presses, I'd rather have a ink train that machines a 40'' than an AB dick 98. Also, research who is available to service the Hamada, because there aren’t a lot of them on the market you will want to know hourly rates and how far away the tech is coming from. Anyone can fix a Ryobi… everyone who has owned one needs to know.

I’ve worked on both machines, as an operator and owner I’d choose the Hamada any day of the week.

[sallak]

i'd go for GTO and only GTO

[printerdw]

Well you cant get a new Hamada or a GTO so if your buying new and looking for 14x20 press Kamori, Shinahoria, Man Roland, all make good presses,