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    Erik Nikkanen is online now Senior Member
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    Default Experimenting with the offset process Ottawa area

    Hi All,

    Any printers interested in doing process improvement experiments in offset that are located in the Ottawa Ontario ( Cornwall, Montreal, Qc) area?

    I would like to find some curious, science and process oriented printers in the Cornwall, Ottawa, Montreal area that would be interested in some experiments in density control and predictability.

    Thanks.

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    Not in the area, but just curious, what sort of experimentation are you looking at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeauchampT View Post
    Not in the area, but just curious, what sort of experimentation are you looking at?
    It's about a temporary installation of a device on the press that fundamentally changes the ink feed and which eliminates ink water balance density variation.

    The important issue is not just to test it. It has been successfully tested. The real issue is to have the results made public.
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    Default Ottawa, Montreal, Brockville, Cornwall Folding Carton printers

    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Nikkanen View Post
    Hi All,

    Any printers interested in doing process improvement experiments in offset that are located in the Ottawa Ontario ( Cornwall, Montreal, Qc) area?

    I would like to find some curious, science and process oriented printers in the Cornwall, Ottawa, Montreal area that would be interested in some experiments in density control and predictability.

    Thanks.

    Erik
    I think especially Folding Carton printers could benefit with testing this simple and low cost technology which eliminates ink/water balance related density variation on offset presses.

    Please contact me for more information if there is an interest and you are in the Ottawa, Montreal, Brockville and Cornwall areas.

    Thanks. Erik

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    Just an update to report on the progress of an experimental test.

    The experimental technology has been designed for one unit of a Komori Lithrone S40 press located at a packaging printer here in Canada. The cost of fabricating the parts has been done.

    Now the process of confirming that there are no issues to prevent testing on this press is being done before the decision to spend money on fabricating the parts.

    The plan is to run it in production and the results will be made public.

    Hopefully there will not be any issues that will prevent the testing. Should be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Nikkanen View Post
    Just an update to report on the progress of an experimental test.

    The experimental technology has been designed for one unit of a Komori Lithrone S40 press located at a packaging printer here in Canada. The cost of fabricating the parts has been done.

    Now the process of confirming that there are no issues to prevent testing on this press is being done before the decision to spend money on fabricating the parts.

    The plan is to run it in production and the results will be made public.

    Hopefully there will not be any issues that will prevent the testing. Should be interesting.
    I would be interested in seeing the results.

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    April 24th update to report the progress of an experimental test.

    Milestone: Commitment to fund the fabrication of parts.

    The packaging printer here in Canada has ordered the parts to be fabricated for the test on one unit of their Komori Lithrone S40 press which is running with UV inks.

    The parts will take about 4 weeks to fabricate and then some weeks to assemble and install on press. The aim is to run it in production.

    Again, the purpose is to make the ink feed consistent and independent of changes in water, roller train temperature and press speed. This will result in consistent print density and basically no ink water balancing. Just set the ink for print density and set water for print quality.

    The technology is not a product aimed at printers directly but a patented technology aimed primarily at press manufacturers.

    The next milestone will be the non production testing. Should be interesting.
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    Congratulations Erik. Your persistence may be bearing fruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Ferrari View Post
    Congratulations Erik. Your persistence may be bearing fruit.

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    Al, maybe. Maybe things are going from sour grapes to sweet ones. :-)

    Just some background info. The guy who got this packaging printer interested in doing the tests, is someone I started to work with in 1984. He was there when I did the first test of this concept on press twenty years ago and he knows that the potential of the technology fits well with the needs of this packaging printer where he now works. He got the manager of the litho department interested and I am happy to say that they now have a clear understanding of the potential for their operation.

    It just shows how difficult it is to get new ideas moving forward in this industry. It takes time and the right combination of conditions and people.

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    Good luck Erik, this industry needs more people like yourself who are not content to accept the status quo


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