Goodbye to MAN Roland

[Erik Nikkanen]

This buddy of mine( Also an Engineer) works for a famous Intellectual Property law firm

If you are interested, please send me an email to farshad@armyaservices.com, I will take it from there and introduce you guys to each other.

Good Luck.

Thanks for the offer Farshad.

I have patents for what I think is important so I should be OK.

[Armya Inc]

Gordon, thanks for the kind comments.

I really am much more interested in working on practical solutions than talking about them.

I would also say that the science I have developed is aimed at engineers and not at the craft printer. It was developed to provide engineers with the analytical tools and knowledge required for them to develop new effective technologies specifically related to colour control on press (ink film control) that will reduce waste, increase quality and increase capacity.

As an engineer, I know how badly this was needed because that type of theoretical knowledge, which leads to predictable development of technology has not been available. In fact, myths were and still are taking the place of valid theory. This situation has often resulted in engineers making poor decisions that result in technologies that do not live up to expectations. This has wasted time and resources.

When I started this work more than 25 years ago, it was mainly aimed at improving a process. A process in a growing market. Now things are quite different. I see this work as being a way to provide survival for some parties with innovation at the expense of other parties in this shrinking market. It is sad but that is the reality. Now knowledge becomes more of a strategic asset and therefore it is not something I discuss too much anymore on forums.

Erik,

How about contacting the following organization. They might be able to help you with your project. As I mentioned, Print Industry needs talented people like you.

Society in Science | Fellowships, Post Doc Program, Science, Engineers, Research Funding


Hope this will help!

[Erik Nikkanen]

Erik,

How about contacting the following organization. They might be able to help you with your project. As I mentioned, Print Industry needs talented people like you.

Society in Science | Fellowships, Post Doc Program, Science, Engineers, Research Funding


Hope this will help!

Farshad, thanks for the link but what they are doing is aimed at specific group of young scientists and engineers. Seems to be a really good organization but it is not applicable to my situation.

Right now, I have designed my technology for a 40 inch wide press that is running UV inks at a packaging printer. I am just now getting the cost for machining parts. The Canadian printer right now is quite positive and we have also gotten some interest from the press supplier.

If the printer is still positive after all the costs and initial issues are determined, then there is the opportunity to build and test the technology in the press and to use it in production.

Since this has to be considered as an experimental effort, a step by step approach is needed. This would also include refinement of the design as one gets more operational experience. After that the technology can be duplicated for more units on their press at low cost.

A short summary of the purpose of the technology.
It provides consistent and predictable print density that is independent of changes in water, press speed, temperature, etc. This should be particularly beneficial for a packaging printer that does repeat jobs because the historical ink key settings will be more accurate with my technology than using the existing CIP3/4 preset technology.

My main purpose for this particular testing is to demonstrate to the public that the solution to the density control problem in offset presses can be done at low cost and with a rethinking of the problem. The printer has agreed to make the results public and give access to parties such as press manufacturers to the results.

If things go well, a lot of credit must go to the people at this Canadian packaging printer who have shown vision and are willing take risks. Those who support these kinds of new ground breaking efforts are more important that the originators because one can not move forward without them.

When there are positive results, you will hear about it. Unfortunately it will not be on Printplanet or WTT because I have been forbidden to discuss it in detail here and will not in the future.

So for the first time in a long time, things are moving in a interesting direction.

Thanks again for your suggestion.

[Al Ferrari]

That's great news Erik, congratulations. Since it is your intention to make the results public and you will observe the restrictions placed on you by Printplanet and WTT, please tell us the rough time frame for some results and the venue in which we can expect them.

Al

[Erik Nikkanen]

That's great news Erik, congratulations. Since it is your intention to make the results public and you will observe the restrictions placed on you by Printplanet and WTT, please tell us the rough time frame for some results and the venue in which we can expect them.

Al

Thanks Al.

If things work out, I will post where people can get the information.

This is still experimental and even though things should work out, there are always potential problems.

[Armya Inc]

Farshad, thanks for the link but what they are doing is aimed at specific group of young scientists and engineers. Seems to be a really good organization but it is not applicable to my situation.

Right now, I have designed my technology for a 40 inch wide press that is running UV inks at a packaging printer. I am just now getting the cost for machining parts. The Canadian printer right now is quite positive and we have also gotten some interest from the press supplier.

If the printer is still positive after all the costs and initial issues are determined, then there is the opportunity to build and test the technology in the press and to use it in production.

Since this has to be considered as an experimental effort, a step by step approach is needed. This would also include refinement of the design as one gets more operational experience. After that the technology can be duplicated for more units on their press at low cost.

A short summary of the purpose of the technology.
It provides consistent and predictable print density that is independent of changes in water, press speed, temperature, etc. This should be particularly beneficial for a packaging printer that does repeat jobs because the historical ink key settings will be more accurate with my technology than using the existing CIP3/4 preset technology.

My main purpose for this particular testing is to demonstrate to the public that the solution to the density control problem in offset presses can be done at low cost and with a rethinking of the problem. The printer has agreed to make the results public and give access to parties such as press manufacturers to the results.

If things go well, a lot of credit must go to the people at this Canadian packaging printer who have shown vision and are willing take risks. Those who support these kinds of new ground breaking efforts are more important that the originators because one can not move forward without them.

When there are positive results, you will hear about it. Unfortunately it will not be on Printplanet or WTT because I have been forbidden to discuss it in detail here and will not in the future.

So for the first time in a long time, things are moving in a interesting direction.

Thanks again for your suggestion.

Erik, As I mentioned, you do not need to discuss the details of your design on this Forum. I am only interested and excited to hear about the progress of your design and the effect of this on the print industry. No worries my friend! life has ups and downs. Insecurity, self-confidence, ignorance and stupidity are relative terms and part of human nature. We can only connect the dots in the past and not in the future.
The most important part is to learn from past finish this strongly no matter how long it will take. I believe and trust you to get the job done and interested to hear more about you. Keep us posted! All the best !

[Alois Senefelder]

Hello Erik,

Never the less I wish you good luck in your endeavour with ITB and await the results.

Warning: UV Offset Inks are difficult regarding - Ink/Water Balance.


Regards, Alois

[Erik Nikkanen]

Hello Erik,

Never the less I wish you good luck in your endeavour with ITB and await the results.

Warning: UV Offset Inks are difficult regarding - Ink/Water Balance.


Regards, Alois

Thanks Alois,

Yes, the UV ink issue is important. Most of the previous testing of my technology has been with EB and UV inks so that is not new. Printing with UV helps to demonstrate the potential because it is more difficult to run with conventional technology.

[maxon]

Back to the topic, Manroland's web offset division has been bought out by the German Possehl Group, an 8,600-staff, €1.7bn-turnover corporation. The deal will save 1,500 of the 2,200 staff at Augsburg. The takeover by Possehl is seen as a stable offer that will protect the future of the web division, Manroland's most profitable unit.
It seems there will be management buyouts at the sheetfed manufacturing site in Offenbach and the assembly operation in Plauen, with government support.

[Francois]

Manroland presses will continue to be built, perhaps under a different name or subcontrcting agreement. We service manroland presses, and will continue to do so to help all our cutomers.

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