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    Hi, Can someone tell me that torque applied to the blanket for a Mitsubishi Diamond 3000???????
    Mitsubishi recomended 98N-72 lb/ft i think is more torque
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    Looks like those numbers are right according to this torque chart I have for a few different makes. - See PDF
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    But this is only for bottcher blankets? Or is generally for a mitsubishi machine? I thins is more torque 98N no?????????

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    Hello Jose, re Bottcher List

    This list is a good starting point, covers all makes of Blankets, not just Bottchers.

    The crucial setting is Blanket Torque - NOT the Press !!



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    Ok But i think this is mitsubishi recomemded torque i apply now 65N for Accura blankets and print very good But mitsubishi rercommemnded 98N is dangerous works with less torque? What's the problem ????

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    Default Wrong Alois!

    The press is very important because the value in the chart takes the cylinder width into consideration.

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    Default Oooops !

    Wrong - not unkown !!!


    re - The crucial setting is Blanket Torque

    Salient Points: the torque wrench settings are affected by - 1) Press Type 2) Size 3) Lockup System


    The Physics of Tension

    " A tension setting of 30 in/lbs maybe effective in the areas closest to the cylinder gap, but not in the
    area directly opposite this gap. Identifying physical properties of blanket tension and its uniformity around
    a cylinder may lend more credence to dot gain and print quality."



    Regards, Alois


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    Alois, i don´t understant this pdf sorry, I want to Know if you or another people appied the torque that recommended the manufacturer of the press. Do you think 98N is a lot of torque??
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jose View Post
    Alois, i don´t understant this pdf sorry, I want to Know if you or another people appied the torque that recommended the manufacturer of the press. Do you think 98N is a lot of torque??
    Thanks.
    (Determine settings for each type used)

    Each blanket is a little different depending on the backing.

    I would put blanket on press with a minimum setting to get started. (Document)

    Run press on pressure for 50 impressions.

    Shut press down and inspect sheet for register and printing defects caused by having a slight bubble from possible excessive material being stretched to the blanket gap.

    Go to printing unit inspect blanket for lose fit and a slight bubble or soft spot at the gap. Information at this point should be pushing you to tighten the blanket some more.

    Tighten blanket in a 10% increment. (30 lbs would be a three pound increase to the wrench.) Document.....

    Inspect blanket and see if soft spot / bubble has disappeared. If it has, run another 50 sheets and check again.

    Keep doing this until blanket and printing are telling you that you are set correctly. (No soft spot at the gap and no register issues at the tail.

    This is the setting point and you have personally determined what the set point should be.

    Blankets can and have been over-torqued in most situations that I have seen. Operators do not seem to care unless management is standing there watching and then it will be found that the torque wrench is set wrong or broken. I had to audit to keep in compliance. You as well can see issues when the blanket is tightened past the click on the wrench. I have seen blankets only getting about half their life due to being pulled so tight that the backing was stretched flat and could not take a hit.

    Just some thoughts...

    Tk
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    Umm quick question if you don't have any kind of tension counter and you pull blanket like a maniac how does that affect print quality? -unless you manage to tear it so you get a case of beers-


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