Vista hanging at startup
This topic may be stretching the boundaries of a pre-press group and I know there's a zillion Google topics with the same subject line - that's precisely why I thought I'd try here.
While there are tons of home remedies via Google (I've tried several) I haven't been able to find a definitive solution. It also appears many of those people posting via Google have about reached their breaking point as well, so at least I have company.
I've reinstalled Vista Home Premium for a friend on her computer and more often than not it will freeze before Windows actually gets to start. It freezes at various stages of the start up.
Windows will eventually open after manually shutting down & restarting and once open will run what I presume is normally for this OS.
Does anyone have any tricks or solutions to share?
I've reached the point where I think wiping the drive again and installing my own version of XP Pro would be the best solution. I really didn't want to start all over again though, seeing as I've already reinstalled all her software etc.
In closing . . . I would die rather than use Vista all the time. I have never experience anything like it in all the time I've been computing.
Thanks for listening
Keith hi. There is only one way not to have problems with Vista - run.
Go back to XP or get Windows 7
I had to re-install all of my Vista stations with something else....
Hmmm. I do believe you're right about that. That would be the sane thing to do. Even negotiating folders & files with Explorer is a nightmare. But surely it must be working for some people.
Or maybe not.
I know the friend I did the reinstall for has been having trouble for ages and it finally reached the point where something had to be remedied. So I took it on rather than see her spend money to have it done.
Granted much of the trouble may be her own doing. She's not computer savvy, but still . . .
Originally Posted by keith1
As an aging Mac user (I used Macs when using Mac wasn't cool ... now I mostly use Windows ... or more correctly whatever the need requires), I'll chime in in defense of Microsoft. Windows Vista was a bold step forward into a future than has since stabilized (and stabilized quite some time ago) with the release of Windows 7. It was a necessary step. I like to think of Vista as a v1.0 version of the future of Windows.
Many will remember that OS X (v10.0) was enlightened and yet horrible until various polish was applied. I personally marked stability there with Panther (10.3.9). The Lion release of late has had teething problems too. But I'm off topic...
Windows Vista was a leap forward. Windows 7 is a v2. I look forward to Windows 8 ...especially to the changes that I've seen them making with the user mode driver stack and many, many core multi-tasking. MANY (I'll argue most) Windows developers prior to Windows Vista played fast and loose with many facets of the Windows API. Vista started the process of clamping down on that wild wild west. It (Vista) has garnered a bad reputation when 90% of the time the finger should more correctly be pointed at the various third party software that resides atop Windows (Vista).
From what you've described I'd look at three areas for relief...
0) Install Windows 7 (not Vista) if you can. Most hardware support was improved by the time Windows 7 hit the streets. It's faster, uses less memory and exhibits more polish;
1) Make sure the machine has a full complement of Vista compatible drivers for all of the various hardware components. Many drivers updated during the Windows 7 time frame are improvements that I'd recommend migrating to (many manufacturers didn't update or poorly updated drivers during the Windows Vista time frame);
2) Verify that the networking related configuration / environment is well formed wrt this machine. Especially if Vista is stalling during startup but eventually "comes back to life". Invariably it was waiting for either a network (or driver ... or both) related action and is not actually an indication of an issue (per se) with Windows itself;
3) Check that the hard disk (if it's not an SSD) is in good condition by using a tool like spinrite;
Appreciate your reply but all it does is confirm that Vista sucks.
I wonder how many out there would have bought the operating system had they known that it's just a practice module for the real deal which is Windows 7. As I recall, Vista was the only Windows option when people bought computers within the time frame of its release.
This is a retail version HP computer that came with Vista pre-installed, so presumably all the drivers are compatible. I wiped the drive and reinstalled Vista. It never booted consistently from the start (after re-installation), so what software I've installed in the meantime is of no consequence. It isn't any worse after installing software though.
If it were only me I would say I've screwed up somewhere, but the internet is littered with similar tales of woe.
On a positive note, it has booted properly 2 times in a row!
As for me, I'll stick with my XP.
And yes I recall earlier days of Mac, when I had to yank the plug several times a day and reboot.
"I'll wager that it's a Core Duo or Core2 Duo (powered machine) of some form with early Sata (1 or 2) support."
Yep; that's what it is.
I found a couple fix's on the HP web site that could be relevant. I'll try those. If (when) that doesn't work I'll wipe the drive and install XP. If that doesn't work; at least I tried
The disk and other hardware checks come up problem free, but who knows. Similar problems appear to have been solved by going back to XP or forward to 7, and since I have XP handy I'll see what that does.
Moral: Never be a nice guy and offer to fix someone's computer
Finally got XP Pro reinstalled on the Vista computer. What a hassle!!! Turns out that Vista installs can be very proprietary. Had a hell of a time locating certain drivers that were XP compatible.
Anyway, it's done and running well.