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  • Which VD format for EFI?

    We do a lot of VD mailings in the 4,000 to 9,000 range. We used to use PPML, which was very fast, but I found some color and artwork issues in a couple of jobs that scared me off using it. Since then, we have been using PDF/VT format, which seems to be great, except that it is much slower.

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    PDF/VT is the universal format that I see taking the industry forward from here on out. I would stick with it. MailGuru might have some good insight on this.

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      Thanks for the feedback. We didn't get the faster P RIP, so I generally let things Process and Hold overnight.

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        When you say 'EFI', is that a Fiery front end on a digital press? If so, does it have HyperRIP capability? If yes, just use regular PDFs. They'll be slower than a PPML, but faster than PDF/VT which doesn't engage the HyperRIP for some reason. We've had this issue on every Fiery (different presses) for the past 5 or so years. Some reps from EFI told us that it was because only one software they know of outputs proper PDF/VT files. We'll just ignore the part where our Creos would process the same PDF/VT files just fine.

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          Originally posted by arossetti View Post
          PDF/VT is the universal format that I see taking the industry forward from here on out. I would stick with it. MailGuru might have some good insight on this.
          Yes, we use PDF/VT

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            Flatten the pdf before you make it a VT. Even with a hyper RIP it will slow way down. I have found pdf output from PSL MUCH faster than PDF VT from Fusion Pro.

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              Originally posted by Craig View Post
              Flatten the pdf before you make it a VT. Even with a hyper RIP it will slow way down. I have found pdf output from PSL MUCH faster than PDF VT from Fusion Pro.
              So it may be that Fusion isn't outputting a PDF/VT that Fiery likes?

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                Are you selecting APPE in Command Workstation?

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                  Originally posted by deckm00@yahoo.com View Post
                  Are you selecting APPE in Command Workstation?
                  Yes.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kdw75 View Post

                    So it may be that Fusion isn't outputting a PDF/VT that Fiery likes?
                    Assuming your Fiery updates are current then I might try using good old VPS (Creo) vdp output format which the Fiery can also process. Just make sure the postscript rip doesn't mess with your transparency levels.

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