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  • How to print on very heavy weights?

    I know presses can go up to 400 gsm, but I can find business cards online that go well above that. Thanks

  • #2
    We achieve this by gluing two single sided sheets together.
    You can buy gluing machines or double sided adhesive sheets but we just use spray mount. It's messy but I don't do it that often.

    We also use the same technique for triple ply cards with a coloured sheet in the middle. Heavy cards feel good but if your client likes to carry cards around with them they are obviously very bulky.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by pippip View Post
      We achieve this by gluing two single sided sheets together.
      You can buy gluing machines or double sided adhesive sheets but we just use spray mount. It's messy but I don't do it that often.

      We also use the same technique for triple ply cards with a coloured sheet in the middle. Heavy cards feel good but if your client likes to carry cards around with them they are obviously very bulky.
      Thanks. There are websites that do not mention anything about the cards being 2 or 3 ply, like this: https://www.e-printing.co.uk/orderpr...p?id=669_668_1

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      • #4
        Ah I see, they look to be specialist stock alright. They have long turnaround times so maybe batch printed on litho? Others on here will hopefully be along later with a definite answer.

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        • #5
          Most likely run on offset. I have run 30pt board through our 29" press in the past, which equates to 624gsm. Man that job was loud.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pippip View Post
            We achieve this by gluing two single sided sheets together.
            You can buy gluing machines or double sided adhesive sheets but we just use spray mount. It's messy but I don't do it that often.

            We also use the same technique for triple ply cards with a coloured sheet in the middle. Heavy cards feel good but if your client likes to carry cards around with them they are obviously very bulky.
            I have seen places laminate sheets together to get the super thick business cards but not putting different colors together. That is a great idea!
            Warning I am a Ricoh tech.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by msaeger View Post

              I have seen places laminate sheets together to get the super thick business cards but not putting different colors together. That is a great idea!
              That works, but gets expensive if your doing very many and adds time.

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              • #8
                These guys (Multi-Loft) make some sort of sheet with pressure sensitive glue that lets you print single-ply and then using a hydraulic cutter bind the sheets together into thicker cards. The pressure from the cutting process is supposed to activate the glue from what I understand.

                I haven't tried it yet but I've been tempted. I just don't have a customer base for that right now and I try not to jump onto every bandwagon. Just because we can doesn't me we should.

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                • #9
                  I've used the multiloft boards and they work really well. The only downside is the sheets cost a fortune, and if you want to offer the multi coloured middle sheet, you need about a thousand pounds worth of stock sitting there!

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                  • #10
                    I hope makers of these cards make a profit, because these methods are expensive.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pippip View Post
                      We achieve this by gluing two single sided sheets together.
                      You can buy gluing machines or double sided adhesive sheets but we just use spray mount. It's messy but I don't do it that often.

                      We also use the same technique for triple ply cards with a coloured sheet in the middle. Heavy cards feel good but if your client likes to carry cards around with them they are obviously very bulky.
                      This is how we get the ultra thick cards. 2 16pt cards together and you have a 32pt card. Not many of our customers want that but there are a few and this works really well. When glued and trimmed you would not know they 2 pieces stuck together.

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                      • #12
                        Mohawk makes a sheet called Layers, made from Superfine. It's G1S, which means glued 1 side. Had a solid laugh the first time I heard G1S, but the product works.

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