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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ferran View Post
    Hi Marie, I think we have exchanged some emails and I am sure you already know that I work for a printing house located in Barcelona. At Litografia Roses we have printed a book using this technique, and I would like to share with you a recent article by Hugo Rodriguez, he talks about it.- I know, it is in spanish but anyway I think it is worth to read so I give you the original link and another one with the Google translation into english.

    http://www.hugorodriguez.com/blog/20...esion-sideral/
    is there a way to get a copy of that book?
    Or better: is there a way to get some printed samples ...somewhere??

    Warm regards

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    • #17
      Originally posted by darioluca View Post

      is there a way to get a copy of that book?
      Or better: is there a way to get some printed samples ...somewhere??

      Warm regards
      I don't know about his other books, but this one by photographer Art Wolfe was printed using DMAXX and 10 micron FM (I was involved in its production). It can be purchased here: https://tinyurl.com/y9u86zl7

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      • #18
        Originally posted by darioluca View Post

        is there a way to get a copy of that book?
        Or better: is there a way to get some printed samples ...somewhere??

        Warm regards
        Hi darioluca, as far as I know you should be able to buy the book online. It is available at several bookshoops.

        https://www.libreriadesnivel.com/lib...9788469762127/
        https://www.altair.es/es/libro/sideral_164325#

        And just in case you had any question or if you want to order a copy directly from Marta, you can contact her (the author) here:
        https://martabreto.com/book-sideral/

        More info about the book can be found here:
        https://martabreto.com/sideral-historia-de-un-proyecto/

        kind regards,
        ferran
        Last edited by Ferran; 05-07-2018, 08:50 AM.

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        • #19
          Muchísimas gracias Ferran!

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          • #20
            Go to any Chilis restaurant. Most of their menu products are printed using Method 3 in Gordo's paper, highly pigmented inks.
            SIDs run in the 1.9 to 2.0 (status T) range for C & M with conventional ink film thicknesses. K is above 2.0.
            This is done with special color management software which was developed specifically for this process.
            Standard AM screening, coating and UV curing are optional.
            The software is no longer available, though. It was on the market for several years, but has since been bought out exclusively for use by ColorMark Printing in Dallas.

            Bill Atkinson, legendary Apple programmer, also published a book called "Within the Stone " using Method 3. He used custom inks and custom ICC profiles for each page. There is a PDF on one of his sites detailing the process of creating the book. The book is beautiful, so obviously it can be done with conventional color management, but it's not really commercially viable that way unless it's a very special job.


            HTH,
            -Don

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            • #21
              Originally posted by dona@colorcontrolnetwork.com View Post
              Go to any Chilis restaurant. Most of their menu products are printed using Method 3 in Gordo's paper, highly pigmented inks.
              [SNIP]


              Bill Atkinson, legendary Apple programmer, also published a book called "Within the Stone " using Method 3. He used custom inks and custom ICC profiles for each page. There is a PDF on one of his sites detailing the process of creating the book. The book is beautiful, so obviously it can be done with conventional color management, but it's not really commercially viable that way unless it's a very special job.
              Having to switch out standard inks for "high density" inks increases production cost and I think makes this solution not commercially viable - unless that's all you do.

              That's why Dmaxx was based on using your standard inks with just a change in target SIDs. It let's you be able to offer two different print conditions - for competitive advantage - with very little effort.

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              • #22
                If you have cultivated customers who understand and desire the advantage of print that 'pops' and are willing to pay for that advantage, then it's quite profitable.
                If you are competing in the commodity print market, not so much.

                Back when we were selling our solution, we had a guy contact us who prints apartment guides. He wanted a little more 'pop', but was more interested in cost than quality.
                Highly pigmented inks were ridiculously expensive for his needs.
                Dmaxx would have been perfect for him - he would have better quality for a modest upcharge, maybe even at no extra cost.

                On the other hand, if you're pushing high end products like jewelry, cosmetics, travel or alcoholic beverages, the extra cost quickly pays for itself.
                Especially when your competitors are unable to even bid against you for the job.

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