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  • HP 5000 with Paper Plates Any Recommendations?

    I am looking into purchasing an HP 5000 to produce paper plates for short run jobs.
    My problem is that I cannot find very much information about the machine other than spec sheets and boasting dealers. So I am asking if anyone on the forum has used the machine and what are your opinions of it? I appreciate any and all opinions, Thanks in advance.

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    Re: HP 5000 with Paper Plates Any Recommendations?

    We use a Hp5000 printer for Smartplates. It works good. We use them for small envlope jobs.

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      Re: HP 5000 with Paper Plates Any Recommendations?

      The HP 5000 is good but try to find a refurb HP5100 on the web. I feel it is slightly better than the 5000 for Laser Plates. Be carful the 5100 is the last HP that will run laser plates, newer models will not have the fuser temperature needed to get a good run from the plate. If you can't get one than you will have to use a laminator just to heat the plate after imaging.

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        Re: HP 5000 with Paper Plates Any Recommendations?

        Tom,

        When you run the plate through laminator do you put it in a sleeve? I had never heard of this idea. Does it make last any longer / less?

        Thanks,
        Dustin

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          Re: HP 5000 with Paper Plates Any Recommendations?

          Sorry for the long delay in getting back. The idea of the laminator is to fuse the toner to the plate. If you do not have a HP5000 or HP5100 then you will need to fuse the plate somehow and I have heard of some printer that use a laminator. If unfused the plate will fail on press.

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            Re: HP 5000 with Paper Plates Any Recommendations?

            Hello Dustin

            Just found out that the Okidata 9600 / 9650 which is a color laser does a great job with plates formulated to work on the xante machines. Better quality than HP. Plus you can image 13" plate and you have a great color laser to boot. A little more expensive than HP about $3900. Let me know which way you go and I can reccomend a dealer for the plate material

            Tom

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              Re: HP 5000 with Paper Plates Any Recommendations?

              I use an HP5000, with the Baseline poly plates. The have run better overtime than anything else I have tried. Less toner background, and good run lengths. excellent QC from Package to Package of plates. Been using them for about 3 years. I also use MSI toner cartridges. They just work better than the HP toner.

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              • #8
                I have used Omega Fast polyester plates for a few years, I understand that they have been replaced by Omega Ultra, but my supplier has provided Xante which I am told are the same. I had a few teething problems but the system is great.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Daniel View Post
                  I also use MSI toner cartridges. They just work better than the HP toner.
                  Daniel,
                  I'm just getting started in this. Where do you get the MSI toner cartridges?

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                  • #10
                    Further to my earlier post. I was sent Myriad plates for a Xante platemaker for use on the HP5000 as a substitute for Omeaga Ultra plates (supplier assured me they were identical), but they are not and have caused major problems - image breaking up after a few impressions. Last week I tried passing the plate through a second time to improve fusing and it appears to have solved the problem. I presume the Xante machine has a far superior fuser than the HP5000.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by trackprint View Post
                      I presume the Xante machine has a far superior fuser than the HP5000.
                      That's right according to them. Someone mentioned, somewhere, running polyester plates through a laminator to fuse the toner because their laser was not hot enough.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by trackprint View Post
                        Further to my earlier post. I was sent Myriad plates for a Xante platemaker for use on the HP5000 as a substitute for Omeaga Ultra plates (supplier assured me they were identical), but they are not and have caused major problems - image breaking up after a few impressions. Last week I tried passing the plate through a second time to improve fusing and it appears to have solved the problem. I presume the Xante machine has a far superior fuser than the HP5000.
                        @trackprint:

                        What we did was... I configured the printer's ROUGH paper setting with a fuser setting of HIGH. Then when we print to Xante plates to the HP5000 we choose ROUGH for paper type in the print driver setup. We did this so we could still use it [HP5000] for regular paper for the odd time or two we need to (cleaning pages, etc.).

                        That might help you if your HP5000 is not configured that way.

                        Emgee

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                        • #13
                          We're using an HP5100. I set "Configure Fuser" to YES, then you can change the fuser settings(Low, Normal, High) for each paper type. The Vellum setting is not as hot as HOT. Guess I could've just used "ROUGH". Set "Tray 1 Mode" to "Cassette". Put a plate in the manual feed tray and print plates. I keep 11x17 in tray 2 for proofing.

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