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    Hi everyone, I work at a small printing company and I am the prepress specialist there. Only a one person shop in prepress and we are looking at getting some trapping software. We were looking at the Esko Deskpack software, but turns out it costs too much and a little more advanced than what we were looking for...Do any of you have a suggestion for stand alone trapping software for a small printing company? Thanks!
    M

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    Re: Trapping software?

    I've used InDesign's application trapping for a few years and have
    found that it works just fine for what we do. I'd give that a try before
    paying for a kit, depending on what your needs are. I've used the
    trapping in CS2 & CS3.

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    • #3
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      I have a version of Trapwise version 3.6 just sitting here doing nothing. It runs well in Classic mode and worked great for me for years till we switched to RAMpage.

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      • #4
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        Visit www.trapping.org and have a look at the new standalone version of I-Trap with the Taskforce Rip.

        This will let you set up a very inexpensive trapping station and export trapped PDF files from any kind of input - PS, EPS or PDF.

        David Lewis
        Lucid Dream Software

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        • #5
          Re: Trapping software?

          Take a look at Heidelberg's PDF Toolbox. It has a trapping application, trap editor AND the BEST PDF color management tool around.

          rich

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          • #6
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            Artpro works pretty fine if you are in Prepress company. Save to pdf in illustrator and Artpro will do the trapping. It takes a minute to trap our labels.

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            • #7
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              Hi. This is my 1st time on the forum
              I am looking for Trapwise for Mac if anyone has it and the dongle for sale.
              Please email me the price if you have it.

              Any other tips finding trapping software that is not to expensive. I am using Illustrator CS3 for Mac, but it is not that good.

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              • #8
                Re: Trapping software?

                We have Esko Deskpack, works great! ( most of the time )

                But from my 20+ yrs in pre-press I gotta say nothing beats trapping by hand ( so to speak ) in Illustrator etc...

                Slower, but better.

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                • #9
                  Re: Trapping software?

                  Doubting_Thomas: Do you mean manual trapping or the automatic-presets trapping? In the latter case, one's RIP needs to support Adobe In-RIP technologies doesn't it?

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                    I agree with the statement that nothing beats application level trapping. I've tested autotrappers with my doozie files multiple times. The auto software works very quickly but nearly evertime something is just not quite right or indeed it is totally wrong.
                    Since I am considered by many to be a dinosaur STS, my fav of all time was Contex RipnStrip, a LW/CT dual raster compositor and trapper that allowed hand editing during and after the code was read. We ran it on an SGI Unix box with quad processing. The LW file would create the traps in seconds while the composite CT (inc CT spread) would take about three minutes for a tabloid size page once the finished LW was ready. And it could handle up to twelve colors! The beauty of RipnStrip was when language changes had to be made, we'd just merge the alternates with the common materials and produce multiple final versions in a few seconds. We used to have three operators produce the same work in the same time as fifteen guys on the Mac. Alas, all that is gone now. Once Contex was sold, IMO, the newer merged system was too complicated. My point however, is that trapping was object or zone controlled at all times so you could spread or choke differently within the same file at any point up until output including hand drawing a repair of an area. Today's auto trappers follow setting parameters that treat everything the same, ie an object either spreads or chokes period. For packaging work with many spot colors, this never works properly.
                    John W

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                    • #11
                      Re: Trapping software?

                      Automatic presets trapping. We don't have a manual trapping application here
                      (outside of manually stroking elements). You only need to use the In-RIP
                      Trapping option from InDesign if you're printing comps to trap on your RIP.
                      We don't have the trap package for our RIP, so I let InDesign handle it.
                      The results work well for us, but we're a smaller shop running smaller presses.
                      To answer your second question though, yes, as far as I know. I use the
                      Application Built In option in the print dialog box instead of the In-RIP option though.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Trapping software?

                        No. Harlequin's got it too. several variants.


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                        • #13
                          Re: Trapping software?

                          We payed a lot of money for inrip trapping. You said you were a small shop there really is no need to invest a lot of money for trapping when InDesign does a fine job. The only thing you really need to know about it is how to make the settings suit your needs and that it only works well if your trapping a pdf. it will not trap eps's unless you export a pdf and bring it back in and it will trap like a champ.

                          Best Wishes
                          Brian

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                          • #14
                            About Trapwise version 3.6

                            Originally posted by almaink View Post
                            I have a version of Trapwise version 3.6 just sitting here doing nothing. It runs well in Classic mode and worked great for me for years till we switched to RAMpage.
                            I am an independent prepress specialist. I wonder if you still have Trapwise version 3.6, with dongle. It works with Mac OS classic? Do you consider to sell it? How much would you ask for?

                            Thank you.

                            qn

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                            • #15
                              Re: Trapping software?

                              Originally posted by John W View Post
                              I agree with the statement that nothing beats application level trapping. I've tested autotrappers with my doozie files multiple times. The auto software works very quickly but nearly evertime something is just not quite right or indeed it is totally wrong.
                              Since I am considered by many to be a dinosaur STS, my fav of all time was Contex RipnStrip, a LW/CT dual raster compositor and trapper that allowed hand editing during and after the code was read. We ran it on an SGI Unix box with quad processing. The LW file would create the traps in seconds while the composite CT (inc CT spread) would take about three minutes for a tabloid size page once the finished LW was ready. And it could handle up to twelve colors! The beauty of RipnStrip was when language changes had to be made, we'd just merge the alternates with the common materials and produce multiple final versions in a few seconds. We used to have three operators produce the same work in the same time as fifteen guys on the Mac. Alas, all that is gone now. Once Contex was sold, IMO, the newer merged system was too complicated. My point however, is that trapping was object or zone controlled at all times so you could spread or choke differently within the same file at any point up until output including hand drawing a repair of an area. Today's auto trappers follow setting parameters that treat everything the same, ie an object either spreads or chokes period. For packaging work with many spot colors, this never works properly.
                              John W
                              Not so much of a dinosaur in my mind John - MaxPro works in a very similar way - Graphic Republik - Innovative solutions for Packaging Professionals

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