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  • Font Management in OSX

    Hello there,

    The files that I receive have, 99% of the time, been PDF; consequently I've never explored font management much. I have one specific question about it:

    I'm dealing more-and-more with open files lately. If I receive a packaged InDesign file, what is the best way to install the fonts provided such that they don't conflict with fonts already installed, and that they are easily removed once the job is done?

    (I mean, of course, as opposed to doing it all manually.)

    Thanks!

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    Re: Font Management in OSX

    I tried to use the various font managers with OS X, and found all of them to have problems..

    I just now copy all my fonts into my user font folder, once a month I clean it out and start over..it's been working great for me.

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    • #3
      Re: Font Management in OSX

      http://www.senecadesign.com/designgeek/fonts-osx.html

      This page is a good resource for learning about how to manage fonts.
      My personal favorite for them is Suitcase and Font Finagler. The nice thing about Suitcase versus fontbook is it is easier to see visually when you have duplicate fonts (imho).

      Like cory though, we have one computer at our shop that is currently without font software. At this time, I've got the font folder from the user library on the dock where I can easily create a client folder and drop fonts in.

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      • #4
        Re: Font Management in OSX

        right on, cory. i do the same, it is like years of font trouble just fell away.

        here is how i did it:

        cleared out my library -> fonts folder
        cleared out my user -> library -> fonts folder
        cleared out my system -> library -> fonts folder EXCEPT for base system fonts

        fonts that i left in my system -> library -> fonts folder:

        courier (postscript version, not dfont)
        geneva.dfont
        helvetica (postscript version, not dfont)
        keyboard.dfont
        lastresort.dfont
        lucidagrande.dfont
        monaco.dfont

        for courier and helvetica, i was running into font conflicts with the dfonts, so i copied over the suitcase and printerfonts for these, and got rid of the dfonts.

        once all this was done, i made an alias of my user -> library -> fonts folder, and put it on my desktop. then, as i need them, i drag and drop fonts on a job-by-job basis into the alias. then, when i am done, i drag them to the trash, do an empty trash, and then a secure empty trash, and you are then ready for the next job. i do the secure empty trash because the system will actually hang on to some fonts until you secure empty or restart.

        i fought for years with suitcase, font explorer, font agent pro, and i am convinced this is the easiest, cleanest way to deal with it. thats just my opinion though, from a prepress point-of-view where we are constantly loading and unloading fonts. it might be different for someone else.

        cr

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        • #5
          Re: Font Management in OSX

          I've had next to no problems with Linotype's Font Explorer. It has a lot of handy features, and it's free.

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          • #6
            Re: Font Management in OSX

            So can one make subfolders in your fonts folder? That's handy. (What am I asking for? I should just be trying it! Will try.)

            I suppose the User/Library/Fonts folder would be a better bet here than the Library/Fonts folder.

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            • #7
              Re: Font Management in OSX

              > {quote:title=LoneGoose wrote:}{quote}
              > So can one make subfolders in your fonts folder? That's handy. (What am I asking for? I should just be trying it! Will try.)
              >
              > I suppose the User/Library/Fonts folder would be a better bet here than the Library/Fonts folder.


              sure, you can have fonts within subfolders. like i said before, i can only speak from my experience, and it has worked well for me. actually, all of our machines do this method, we have no font management software at all. i know from having this discussion over at the old prepressforums.com site that others prefer the software method, and that is fine too, whatever works for you.

              good luck!

              cr

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              • #8
                Re: Font Management in OSX

                font explorer is the one software ive personally used that indeed seemed the least problamatic. font agent pro wasnt bad, but suitcase, whew, i never could get that to work.

                cr

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                • #9
                  Re: Font Management in OSX

                  The older version of Suitcase really would not work without
                  http://homepage.mac.com/mdouma46/fontfinagler/

                  They've cleaned it up though and the latest version is alot less buggy. But... it's alot cheaper to just use the library trick. The one thing I like to have management software for is browsing a list when I need to do some little creative project.

                  I've yet to find a decent app to print myself a fontbook of some kind.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Font Management in OSX

                    ann,

                    do you work more in the design end of things, or more prepress? from what i have read on older threads on this topic, that does make a difference on how you may choose to handle fonts. here, all i ever do is load 'em, work my document, and get rid of them. nothing creative about it. if i did need to actually see my fonts, or design a piece or something, that may change my tune on font management a bit. its all in how you look at it, and what your needs are.

                    cr

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                    • #11
                      Re: Font Management in OSX

                      Kinda both. I am a prepress operator and have been for the past 10 years. But I am one of those schmucks with a Design degree in my pocket. Everytime someone has a little job that needs some polish, they come my way. So having that list of master fonts that go with X project is VERY handy. It's also nice if you are comfortable using the Adobe Font list. We had the master CD. Any job that came in we tried the Official Adobe version first, then we would try the customer fonts. (This was for flexographic packaging.} Since then, I've moved out into a broader corporate market. I've found there are most customers that like to fiddle and tweak their fonts, so I'm not sure if I would go back to that method.

                      Edit: I should also mention, in my last prepress job, we had to make ALOT of typographic alterations. It was food packaging and they were always changing their legal copy and Nutritional info at the last minute. We also had one customer for whom I always had to take 3-4 5 year old files and peicemeal them back into something useable. Usually with revisions that would literally span a 6 month period. In spanish. So... I loved me the font list

                      Given that this package was pretty much a standard market. We had the same clients, same fonts and same revisions over. And over. And over. So you can see how keeping a permanent font list versus a temporary font folder would be handy.

                      Edited by: Ann_PPF on Sep 12, 2007 12:16 PM

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                      • #12
                        Re: Font Management in OSX

                        Someone mentioned using the user's font folder, which is located in /Users/Username/Library/Fonts on PrintPlanet a while back. Even though I still use Suitcase (and deactivate and reactivate if a program doesn't see a font after first activation in Suitcase), there are times Suitcase won't use the font. In those cases, I do just as chris_r does and put the fonts in the user's font folder, and the apps see them instantly (faster than a font manager).

                        Don

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                        • #13
                          Re: Font Management in OSX

                          Try Alsoft Master Juggler. Use it like a drag and drop turn on, use, turn off and remove for each job you do. Strip the Mac of all the fonts mentioned keeping only those needed by the mac to run and no others.
                          Never use sets if you are in production.
                          We use it in OS9 (old vers) and OSX (new vers) all day long and never ever have had a problem.
                          John

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                          • #14
                            Re: Font Management in OSX

                            I must be in the extreme minority here, because Suitcase X11 works fine 99.9% of the time here. Activating fonts from a Brisque server no less. I guess the old adage "whatever works for you" is in full effect for this topic!

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                            • #15
                              Re: Font Management in OSX

                              to be honest, I haven't tried any font management program in a couple years. I've got a system that is working for me right now, if it ain't broke, don't break it.

                              I'm sure suitcase has improved since I last tried it. (along with all the other font managers)

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